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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:47 PM
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Kaine Plans Positive Bush Speech Response
Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, tapped to deliver the State of the Union response for Democrats, has sharp words for both parties in Washington: Stop being so partisan, negative and irrelevant. "There's a better way," he said Monday.

Less than three weeks after taking office, Kaine is a rising star inside his party because he succeeded last November where many other Democrats have failed — in a Southern state and in the fast-growing exurbs.

"Results matter. Planning matters. Management matters, and you can make much more progress if you do it in a bipartisan way," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060130/ap_on_re_us/state_of_union_kaine
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Bi-Partisanship worked great for us in 2002 and 2004. It will work great for us again. cough.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:48 PM
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1. Blah Blah blah
bipartisanship my ass

these Repukes want war

they should get it

where's the Dems with balls?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:48 PM
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2. Yes, sounds like a barn-burner. That'll get grass-roots Dems fired up.
Not.

:puke:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:50 PM
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3. Sounds like corporate board presentation.
Management.
Planning.
Results.

Dear God, please tell me he won't be doing a Power Point presentation.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:50 PM
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4. yep....bigotry matters.
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 08:51 PM by kevinbgoode
Just what I want to see right now - an asskissing Republican-Lite Demo governor in a state with some of the most repressive laws in the country, delivering a speech about "bi-partisanship" in response to a President and a Repuke Congress which has laced every single campaign with vile, divisive, namecalling and gaybaiting rhetoric.

This response should go such a long way to restoring any Democratic credibility as an opposition. NOT.

I vote we organize a complete boycott of this crap.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:50 PM
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5. Ugh
Oh yes. Let's let them walk all over us and our freedoms. Fuck him.
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:51 PM
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6. Ditto. N/T
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:52 PM
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7. Good reading for those who think we "won" today
get used to appeasement and enabling. I think the nation realized toady that no one is going to stop the fascists, might as well join them.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:55 PM
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9. NO kidding. . .
Kaine's idea of "bi-partisanship" comes from his experience in the state government of a commonwealth run by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. That's sure a great example for the rest of the country.

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:54 PM
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29. "the nation realized "toady" that no one is going to stop the fascists"
Nice Freudian slip, TOJ!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:53 PM
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8. I see the DLC speech writers have
done their normal job on his speech. :grr:

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:57 PM
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10. WOW! He is a DLCer Dem of the Week!!!!
we are so much toast if this is all we have. Right from the DLC website!.....

:puke:



http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253696&subid=116&kaid=104

New Dem Of The Week | January 26, 2006
New Dem of the Week: Tim Kaine
Governor, Virginia

After just 16 days in office, Gov. Tim Kaine will introduce himself to millions of Americans outside of Virginia when he gives the Democratic response to the president's State of the Union address next week. Gov. Bill Richardson, chairman of the Democratic Governors Association, said he and the Senate and House Democratic leaders chose Gov. Kaine because he is a leader who is "on the front lines every day working to help his fellow citizens." As lieutenant governor, Kaine worked with Gov. Mark Warner to enact budget, tax, and management reforms, and make key investments in education and economic development, earning Virginia the designation of "Best-Managed State" from Governing magazine. As Virginia's legislative session begins, Kaine is poised to make an impact on both national and state politics.

The appeal that Tim Kaine demonstrated last November to the suburban and exurban voters that Democrats have so often failed to reach makes him an especially interesting new voice in national Democratic circles. During the gubernatorial campaign, Kaine blunted a negative Republican campaign focused on divisive cultural issues by telling a compelling personal story about his faith-based commitment to public service and by promoting a policy agenda that combined a continuation of Mark Warner's tough fiscal management with property tax relief, a statewide pre-K initiative, and efforts to solve Virginia's horrendous traffic and overdevelopment problems.

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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:00 PM
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11. Yep - Republican-Lite
Thanks a lot, DLC. You might as well be a branch of the RNC with this crap.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:57 PM
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26. He is also a raging homophobe!
The only difference between him and his Republican opponent last November was the Nazi tattoo on the repuke.
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clarknyc Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:01 PM
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12. Oh. Come. On.
You can't be bi-partisan with a party that seeks every opportunity to marginalize you, rub your nose in it, and then gloat about it. Appeasement with bullies is self-defeating and will not sustain a political party.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:11 PM
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15. Exactly...
...the GOP would rather appease and negotiate with bin Laden than they would practice bipartisanship with Democrats and "liburuls"...
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:01 PM
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13. fucking moron sellout Vichy-democrat
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:01 PM
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14. Yes, let's keep it upbeat and light
Valium is your friend.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:08 AM
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32. He looks like he's
on Valium in that up thread picture. :silly:
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:16 PM
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16. Another STUPID jerk
If I hear one more democrat say "bipartisan" --

anyway he's just another common ordinary DINO.

And perhaps we do need a third party.

The old Republican party no longer exists it has morphed into a religious fanatically dogmatic extremists cult membership -- and the only way they can win election is to CHEAT.

If our side can get a real vote with paper ballots etc. . . . . singing to the choir. . . .
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:37 PM
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21. This stupid jerk is the governor of Virginia because the last stupid jerk
handled a very red state in a very bipartisan way.

Two Democratic governors in a row. Yeah, they're real jerks.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:18 PM
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17. I'm sure the Leader of Poland was upbeat ...
... when the Nazi's arrived, too ... "Can't we all just get along?" :eyes:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:25 PM
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18. Oh brother.. He'd doing that as Warner's surrogate... I was all
hyped and on the Warner bandwagon. But after his disappointing response on Face the nation when asked if bush's spying broke the law. Ugh.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:51 PM
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22. Actually, the debacle was on "This Week" with George S
who could barely keep a straight face while Warner yapped about being Commander in Chief of the Virgina National Guard as his national security cred. :P

Kaine in his footsteps...:boring:

Sorry Kahuna, But you know there was this 4 star General that just rocked it today though!;)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:31 AM
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36. The only one
I'm supporting in 2008 now is John Kerry. He's the only one who fights for us.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:32 PM
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19. Yea, with Abramoff and his 'bi-partisan' scandal....this is bullshit.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:33 PM
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20. Sick of playing nice with these fools eom.
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 09:34 PM by politicasista
:boring: :wtf:
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:53 PM
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23. Clark and Gore need to write the response and hand it to Kaine.
Then they need to tell him: "Say exactly what we've written. No apologies, just the unvarnished truth."
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:56 PM
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24. Better yet - let Clark & Gore give it!
That would be must-see TV! ;)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:56 PM
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25. Bush's clone will deliver the Democratic response
I think we should deliver our response to the response. What say you?
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 09:59 PM
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27. Good Lord, just what we need. "Please sir, may I have some more." nt
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:31 PM
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28. Another speech that I'm going to have to skip.
I can read the summaries of them here at DU, while avioding raising my blood pressure by actually listening to them.

I have respect for Kaine as a Democrat who was able to win a governership in a red state, but he does not sound like the right person to be representing our party overall, especially not in its response to *'s SOTU. We ABSOLUTELY don't need a Democratic response that will appear to place equal blame on both parties for the situation in this country. The VERY LAST THING that our party needs right now is Democrats who undercut other Democrats by accusing them of partisanship. When are the Dems going to get it through their f'n heads that we need people who will be defending rather than criticizing our party when acting as its spokespersons? (I apologize, I'm actually getting madder and madder as I'm typing this out.)

Bipartisanship is a nice idea in theory, but it only works if there are two players. When only one side is willing to play, it really does become date rape.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:03 AM
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30. And maybe he can apologize when he's done!
After all, he might have offended Fred Phelps or Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson or Robert Schuller or Joel WhatshisassYourBestLifeNow out in Clownistan with some of his remarks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:06 AM
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31. Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit!
The Democrats have to suck it up but the repukes can call us traitors?

Sound about right, Kaine?
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:10 AM
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33. He could change the world by using the I word
"I pray that these most troubling recent events do not lead us down the unfortunate path to impeachment..."

Just dropping that line, with that word, could change the electoral map overnight. In our favor? I think so.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:24 AM
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34. Good article from The Nation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060129/cm_thenation/754053

Liberal Bloggers--Tim Kaine Isn't the Problem Katrina vanden Heuvel
Sun Jan 29, 11:34 AM ET


<snip>
1. It doesn't really matter who gives the reply, since no one listens and it's an impossible task.

2. This is slightly less important than whether House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi chooses to wear blue or red to listen to the speech.

3. He's a Governor. With most of us fixed on the chances of taking back the House and/or Senate, don't forget this is an election year when thirty-six statehouses are up for grabs. And smart progressives understand that the gridlock in DC means many policies which will improve peoples' lives and security--increasing the minimum wage, expanding affordable healthcare, strengthening environmental protection, Apollo Alliance projects for energy independence--are likely to come from states led by Governors who understand the need for affirmative government.

4. And, hell, Kaine is pretty liberal for a Virginian. During the campaign, he was derided relentlessly by the GOP, in an expensive and vicious campaign, as "the most liberal candidate who's ever run for governor in the Commonwealth of Virginia's history." Kaine is a guy who made a name for himself working with the American Civil Liberties Union, who connected his faith to his politics in authentic ways (he was a thoughtful opponent of the death penalty), who was an honest and forthright advocate of government's affirmative role--supporting moves to increase taxes to fund education, transportation and environmental programs.
<snip>
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:28 AM
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35. Another democrat who apologizes for being a democrat
what an asshole.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:23 AM
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40. Too much partisanship? I just like to see SOME partisanship
from the Democrats.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:35 AM
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37. Will he be wearing his DLC approved pink tutu?
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 12:36 AM by Tierra_y_Libertad
Bi-partisanship supporter - aka Part-time Democrat
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 02:45 AM
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38. Let Dennis Kucinich
give the response!
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:21 AM
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39. Don't like him either anymore
Go to hell DLC
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:16 AM
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41. If ever there was a WRONG TIME for this guy to have been chosen to speak..
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 08:19 AM by Totally Committed
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