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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:44 PM
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Feingold: Gonzales "Was Not Being Straight" During Confirmation Hearing
Sen. Russell Feingold (D-WI) charged yesterday that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales misled the Senate during his confirmation hearing a year ago when he dodged a question about whether the president could authorize warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens.

In a letter to Gonzales, Feingold demanded to know why Gonzales dismissed the senator's question about warrantless eavesdropping as a "hypothetical situation" during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in January, 2005.

Readers may recall that JABBS asked a similar question last month.

The question remains: Given his role in circumventing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, did Gonzales commit perjury during his confirmation hearing?


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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:47 PM
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1. It sure as hell wasn't hypothetical, then, was it?
Go for it, Russ. And it doesn't depend on what the meaning of "hypothetical" is, either.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:51 PM
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2. I am sure if someone perused the transcript they would find
other untruthful statements to the Senate. I am too freakin tired, maybe someone is up for it.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:51 PM
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3. Russ smells a rat. Get out the rat trap Russ.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:55 PM
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4. he's no dummy
It was obvious that Gonzales was dodging the question. People don't dodge in order to tell the truth ...
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:59 PM
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5. Russ nicely provided the rope
and Gonzales used it.
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:03 PM
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6. Get him, Russ!!
Senator Feingold won't settle for spin! He ROCKS!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:11 PM
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7. Uh, Russ, the word is LIE
why don't our people use that word?
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:28 PM
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10. why not "lie"?
You don't say "lie" because that assumes intent. You say things like "fact-challenged" or "misled" because that simply means that Gonzales didn't give the facts.

I'm not a lawyer, but I assume that for politicians, it's a defense mechanism, to avoid being sued for slander.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:54 PM
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12. No, the word is "perjury."

"Perjury" is a legal term encompassing a greater range of infractions than "lie," which is not, in and of itself, a legal term. For example, deliberately giving incomplete testimony under oath is perjury.

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 AM
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16. The steroids thing illustrates.
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 10:19 AM by PATRICK
If you claim something that is untrue at that time then it is not necessarily perjury. If you say you never used steroids then take up using them AFTER the hearing, you are a piece of work but not a pristine perjurer. I think the point here is that Gonzales, among other WH and NSA attorneys had been greenlighting the illegal use of wiretaps already. Only by really stretching his language then can he claim it was theoretical. Timing is all. AFTER confirmation if he goes ahead and does something he denied he would do it is a different snakelike quality than if he denied something he had done and was doing already.

Which someday we can dream adds up to real jail time and/or turning against the rest of the gang.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:36 AM
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17. Use lie
unfortunely that's the only word that captures
the attention of a dumbed down America.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:21 PM
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8. Perjurist AG! Needs more K&R n/t
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:27 PM
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9. Someone lied in their confirmation hearing
and then the Dems voted for them? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

Asscrap lied in Feingold's face and Feingold voted for him.

There is a whole list of these lying Repukes who the Dems confirmed. Clarence Thomas? Rehnquist? Ted Olson? If they don't sit there and lie, they just get elevated in a Recess Appointment.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:11 AM
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15. Excellent observation. I never forgave him for Ashcroft. NEVER.
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 10:12 AM by robbedvoter
All the Feingold for president flavor of the minute threads here stuck in my crow because of Ashcroft.
And now, they are going to realize just how futile it is to unmask confirmation lies after the fact. Watcha gonna do? Impeach him?


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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:30 PM
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11. Is that a lie?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:55 PM
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13. Well, sorry, but *we* here GODAMN knew that back then n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 10:08 AM
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14. Nawww! You think? Can you "unconfirm" him now?
As they say in the old country: "catch the blind man, get his eyes"
A cautionary tale for Alito.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:46 AM
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18. Sure, he LIED. Do you really think something will be done
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 11:47 AM by dkofos
to hold him responsible??

Not a fucking chance.

They own the courts now too!!


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