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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:06 AM
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washington journal call-ins are about health care this hour
discussing private versus national.good phone calls
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:09 AM
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1. Considering that it has been leaked that bu$h is going to talk about
private Health Care accounts in the SOTU speech.
This could be a set up by the right wing to make the issue look like it is of national interest.
:tinfoilhat:

I work for a company who has implemented private accounts, the details are frightening
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:16 AM
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2. Not one positive call yet
all advocate socialized medicine
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:00 AM
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27. My father does to...they almost switched them over without mentioning
it. It's freaky. The company they use is Luminus, or something like that.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:34 AM
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3. NO ONE is happy about the state of their healthcare; let dimson
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 08:31 AM by babylonsister
try to spin this. :mad:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:39 AM
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4. RW again smacking any form of 'socialized' medicine
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:40 AM
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5. He ran off several bad examples of 'rationed' Canadian medicine.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:41 AM
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6. He is instilling fear--as if we had to have exactly similiar plan as Europ
e/Canada
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:41 AM
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7. Now talking of some of Jrs plans--health savings accounts.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:42 AM
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8. and computerized records.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:42 AM
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10. he called them 'free market incentives" (more to come with SOTU)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:42 AM
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9. And he wants to connect patient databases.
What's wrong with getting a release of information and calling?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:44 AM
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11. the databases do have some advantages--Yet if people do not have
health care to start with--what good is it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:45 AM
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12. We have limited $$---and I think taking care of people comes first!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:46 AM
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13. talking of getting rid of 'frivilous lawsuits"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:47 AM
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14. He is pushing the free market system as a solution to our crisis.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:47 AM
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15. crap it--We had the free market system and it has FAILED!
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:08 AM
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32. My RW BIL was bashing "socialized medicine" recently
until he was asked about his family's health insurance. His response was that they used the health insurance his wife got through her teaching job. We commented that his family's insurance was paid for with TAX DOLLARS and yet he has problems with anyone else receiving health care funded by tax revenues through a national health care plan. No hypocrisy THERE, huh?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:48 AM
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16. someone just came on and cut the Cult. of Corruption.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:49 AM
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18. he is again cutting any form of national health care.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:49 AM
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17. I'm becoming convinced that the RW is trying to kill off people.
Deregulate and limit coverage and cut off your access to redress if injured.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:50 AM
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19. This will be a serious fight (our health care)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:51 AM
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20. He said they (RW)--were being to win 'at the kitchen table"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:52 AM
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21. Well folks--Alito is History- time to put our energy into health care and
Jrs new solutions.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:53 AM
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22. He was coplaining of how clinics have to hire 'Medicare compliance
personnel"--he is right--lots of time going into the new drug plan which no one can figure out. what a dupus!!--of course he did not mention that.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:54 AM
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23. Says-the free market system is working-competion is working.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:58 AM
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24. "rationed" is the talking point for RW--a fear tactic to oppose single-
payer system.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:59 AM
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25. and emailer said that people cannot afford to purchase health accounts.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:00 AM
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26. his response was that the employer would kick in for the HSA. what
about those who are NOT employed?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:01 AM
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29. He sure is pushing HSAs!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:02 AM
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30. I think Ted Kennedy et all have their work cut out this year!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:09 AM
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33. Its the only thing he hasn't screwed up entirely yet.
He can't talk about Jack tonite.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:01 AM
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28. "Won't work for everyone"--single payer plan.
Well we're on the way to creating a whole new class of have and have-nots.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:02 AM
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31. he left out that little factoid (and a lot others)
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