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AGENDA21 Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:39 AM
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Guess who just replaced America as the worlds #1 exporter of its goods?
China has now surpassed the U.S. in exporting the most technology products around the world, according to new figures from the OECD (Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development).

It happened last year, when China exported $180 billion in computers, mobile phones and other digital equipment. (America’s IT exports reached $179 billion.)

China is, as everyone knows, a major center of low-cost manufacturing, and its meteoritic rise is reminiscent of post-war Japan. (China, like Japan, is a great imitation of technology… the U.S. invented the electronic computer and the transistor, but guess who manufactures them?)

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/167/3581/2006-01-30.asp?wid=167&nid=3581
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:40 AM
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1. Hey, they stole that technology fair and square.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:53 AM
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6. And as they educate their smart people it will keep up the pace.
Our smart people are not always rich so college will be out of line for them soon. When you get higher education set aside for one class of people you end up in a bad way to my way of thinking. Just look at the growth in this country after the GI bill. I also just read that colleges were going to open it up for more people from over seas. Now how is a lower middle class family, where most people are, going to send its bright kids to college when you have a country paying for their bright kids to come to our colleges? Why can't our party get behind this?Guess the GOP would say that was Socialism.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:56 AM
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8. Even smart kids who can afford a good education are having trouble
finding good colleges with good technology programs. The only ones that offer anything at the higher levels will be colleges that are funded by the military industrial complex, or the entertainment world. There's nothing out there dedicated to finding alternative energy sources or the next pet rock.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:55 AM
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7. Yes. It's called "licensing"
n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:58 AM
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10. Oh, I thought it was called "lobbying."
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iwanmycntrybak Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:41 AM
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2. Bushwhacker is turning us into a third world country.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:42 AM
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3. Suggestion
Always preface "China" with "communist". Pisses off the wingers and it's true.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:46 AM
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4. This is Bill Clinton's fault
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 07:46 AM by ComerPerro
somehow, some way, the Clenis caused all this.

And Bush is just a victim.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:26 AM
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18. China's MFN status - Clinton had no qualms RENEWING it.
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 08:28 AM by HypnoToad
Guess who signed it in the first place? The sitting President, circa 1980. :cry: China became a Most Favored Nation in 1980.

Did Carter become THAT angry with America? :shrug: Or did anybody know what would happen after it became signed into reality? Somebocy CAN sign something in good faith, and then it gets abused... snd did anybody cry out at the time that Carter was allowing a COMMUNIST NATION, A HUGE ENEMY IN THE COLD WAR, to trade goods with the US? Goods from companies such as the Loral group? (though that didn't start until Reagan, fortunately.)

But Reagan had no qualms in maintaining that status. Ditto for Bush I. When Clinton did it, he was lambasted for it.

Of course, offshoring became rampant and during the 1980s nobody noticed or cared. During the 1990s, IT was "the new Manufacturing" so NOBODY cared, despite noticing. Well, IT is going the way of manufacturing (and engineering).

Of course, Reagan allowed the Loral group to sell sensitive and highly complex (missile) guidance systems to China and nobody batted an eye. Clinton comes into power, renews it, and the repukes all of a sudden have a big-ass problem with it. There is NOTHING innocent about this. Clinton was a fool for allowing Loral to continue doing so, and Reagan was brain damaged in the first place. Or genuinely evil; but the man who claimed to be against communism would surely not allow the SELLING OF WEAPONS ITEMS TO A COMMUNIST ENEMY?!?! (again, brain damaged or a traitor. Either way, he should have been impeached in the iran contra affair; he kept saying "I don't remember" - which means he can't hold himself accountable for his actions which means he is incapable of leading which means he should have been booted; not that anything would have changed.)

Meanwhile, as has been posted, Clinton is now in bed with the Bushes. And given Clinton's MANY acts that have come to fruition today, I dare say he was more of a plant... DMCA, DOMA, COPA, NAFTA, 1995 welfare 'reform', 1996 telecom act, 55mph speed limit rescinding, I unfortunately could go on for some time and we've all seen the results of those laws. It ain't pretty. :(
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:28 AM
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19. Well, see, there you go, trying to blame
other Presidents like Bush I and the great Saint Reagan.

Same on you.

This is Clintons fault and his fault alone!

:sarcasm:
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:50 AM
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5. Yeah I've heard the wacko right wingers say
it is all Clinton's fault because he pushed NAFTA. What they don't remember is that NAFTA is the North America free trade act, Not the communist Chinese free trade act.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:58 AM
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9. To be fair...
... the road we started down with China trade was paved by Bill Clinton.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:07 AM
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11. Actually, everything started with Nixon.
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 08:12 AM by The Backlash Cometh
And people seem to forget that Reagan-Bush planted a few business networks of their own.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:11 AM
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13. Nixon..
... wanted detente. Trade with China ramped up in a big way in the early 90s. Clinton might not have been the driving force behind it, but he sure did nothing to regulate it either.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:15 AM
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16. I don't think that Clinton ever had an offshoot like the Carlyle Group,
which was last reported to be negotiating a few business contracts of their own with China.

Yes, Clinton was about opening trade, but you know what? He wasn't the one that was behind the free trade, free market forces which were the vanilla flavor of the times.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:42 AM
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21. It's not the Carlylse group.
... that is the problem. It is allowing our markets to be flooded with cheap goods with no reciprocal action on China's part.

Clinton was all for it.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:24 AM
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22. As far as I can tell, he may have opened up your faucett, but after
2000, it was the responsibility of the guy who allowed all the immigrants a free pass into this country, to shut it off. At some point, you need to put the ultimate blame where it belongs. These things are fluid,
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:08 AM
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12. Business Lesson # 1: SELL MORE THAN YOU BUY!
Free Market News. Hee Hee. That's funny. The only thing "free" about this market is the cash the wealthy scoop up with their greedy mitts while the rest of us keep less than ever in return.

It's the new Feudalism, and we're losing seventy googolplex-fold.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:14 AM
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14. Hey, we need China to make big profits to buy our treasury notes to
finance our massive national debt and prop up an otherwise faltering economy with low interest rates to buy and build McMansions and to close plants and move the operations to China.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:15 AM
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15. Nero, do you smell smoke?
Roma es en fuego!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:15 AM
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17. Don't worry, our engineers are being moved over there too.
Well, the jobs are - not sure about the American people who've made sure America remains the most advanced. Oh well!

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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:36 AM
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20. And it happened on Bush's watch!! The RW would be advertising this
had their been a Dem administration in power.
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