The importance of 9-11

[BOSSHOG]

We are told 9-11 "changed everything." We are told right wing zealots live in a post 9-11 world while we constitution loving liberals remain in a pre 9-11 existence. Just where does 9-11 fit into the importance scale of American Events?

The revolution; the writing of our constitution; War of 1812; Civil War and its battles; WWI; the automobile; Pearl Harbor; WWII; D-Day; Hiroshima, the ugliness of joe mccarthy; the assassination of JFK and MLK Jr and RFK; Vietnam; Gulf of Tonkin; Watergate; Nixon resignation; the non-reported shame of Iran-Contra; even ronald reagans ridiculous and wasteful funeral. Katrina. So many events in American History which 9-11 pales in comparison to.

The only thing 9-11 changed is how conservatives spin things. They are using it to keep their tragically ignorant flock in line. They profit from the fear of their base.

Interestingly enough, evil liberals have found something to strike fear into the hearts of conservatives - Gay Cowboys. Earlier today on Free Republic (someone posted here), those fine Americans were fretting over Brokeback Mtn and having something shoved down their "collective throats."

9-11 did not change anything for this vet. It only proves our point that lemmings often come in the form of "conservatives."

[wtbymark]

1. 'Lemmings' is an understatement n/t

[Ian David]

2. We're shoving the homosexual agenda down their throats...

until hot, sticky gay rights dribble down their chin.

As always, conservatives are obsessed with gay sex and gay sexual imagery.

We let them have "Chronicles of Narnia" without a protest, didn't we?

I don't see how someone who drives to the movies, pays $7 for a ticket, and then sits in a theater for 90 minutes is having something "crammed down their throats."

The only thing "crammed down their throats" is stale popcorn coated with butter-flavored oil priced at a 3,000% mark-up.

Every time Brokeback Mountain is playing, ghostly gay lasoos extend out into the streets where innocent men, women and children are dragged kicking and screaming into the theater!

[BOSSHOG]

4. And in the continuing pursuit of forcing liberalism on everyone

and everything, all the "christian" churchs in Mississippi have been burned to the ground and all "christians" have been rounded up and herded to reeducation camps where liberalism is forced down their collective throats.

[MissWaverly]

3. It gave Team Bush the aura of legitimacy that it did not deserve

I really think there is no way that the Iraq War would have ever occurred w/o 9-11.

[seemslikeadream]

5. and those Niger forgeries!

LEDEEN!!

[MissWaverly]

7. yes but the Niger forgeries were crude

they would have never held up unless the background was mushroom clouds, terra, terra, terra

[seemslikeadream]

9. They did hold up long enough to get those 16 words in to the SOTU

The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.


Condi says they were blown out of proportion

I do agree 9/11 was the primary reason georgie got to go to Iraq though

[MissWaverly]

12. I know that in the future we will be criticized for being gullible

but we do the best that we can and the media has taken everything Bush says and trumpets
it everywhere, like Democrats took money from Abramoff, there is not 1 iota of proof in
that statement but on and on they go.

[CJCRANE]

6. Imagine if New Yorkers used 9/11

the way conservatives do!

New York took the brunt of it, so surely New Yorkers should be entitled to get everything their way, not the neocons who let it happen.

[MissWaverly]

8. Yes, those who suffer the most benefit the least

and their opinions are stifled by the experts. I still don't understand how George
Bush is so powerful when he is polling in the toilet and this is an election year.
Isn't that why Trickie Dick got his walking papers with the you are bad for the
party speech. It was the major Republicans who asked him to leave not the Democrats.

[underpants]

10. Fear is one powerful thing Boss

It makes people do anything they are told just to alleviate that fear. They will do most anything and they will convince themselves that it isn't a lie and it isn't because they are scared.

[Stephanie]

11. I object to that BOSSHOG

As a New Yorker I object to this:

So many events in American History which 9-11 pales in comparison to.

It was the most horrific event of my life and everyone else in this town. It was the horror of watching 2000 people, people just like me, who work in an office tower, crushed to death, alive. I will never forget. It did change everything. Just not in the way Bush wants it to. But yes, it did change everything. If I said Katrina paled in comparison to the tsunami or the Pakistan earthquake, I think you would rightly be offended, as I am.

[MissWaverly]

13. please don't be angry, he is saying it did not mean the end

of our democratic principles as Rove says Pre-911 = (clueless Democrats) and Post-911 =
savy Republicans who know how to fight terror. If you read the book Against All Enemies,
you will see that Bush and Cheney turfed their repsonsibilites and that very night started
planning for the Iraq confrontation. Your city did a wonderful job and you are right
that we have become more vigilant. What we are saying that it is wrong for Bush, Cheney
and Rove to grab your mantle of courage and sacrifice and compassion and resolve and defensive initiatives to make this country safer AS THEIR own, all George did was a
photo-op with a bullhorn and a few speeches, YOU, the people of New York, ran with
the ball. The credit and the honor should be yours.

[BOSSHOG]

14. 9-11 was a terrible tragedy

and is being used by those with NO IDEAS for political purposes. I mean no offense but it is not the be all and end all for our lives and our country that rove would like us to believe. It terribly and incredibly effected those who had loved ones there or who lived near; but it should not be the driving force of the daily lives of all Americans. Katrina compares poorly to the death tolls of the tsunami and Pakistan and I would not be offended at all if any comparison were made. Instead we do what we can to make it right where we live. I sincerely apologize for offending you, however I believe you might accept my premise on retrospect.