Are you aware of the fact that none of Coretta Scott King's children

[CatWoman]

are married, and none of them have children?

I feel as if she was ripped off.

She should have spent the last years of her life enjoying her grandchildren.

Or am I being an unrealistic, sappy fool?

[mello1]

1. Yeah, you are being sappy.

[applegrove]

2. Imagine the trauma that family faced. Didn't know that.

[Hissyspit]

3. Nobody OWES their parents grandchildren.

No matter how much it may annoy the parent. Sorry.

[CatWoman]

6. it's not so much that they "owe" her grandchildren

but don't you think it's strange that none of them have children?

[Hissyspit]

28. I think I would categorize it more as 'interesting' than strange.

I hope you didn't think I was being harsh, CatWoman. I understand the point of your OP, I just wanted to make sure my point got made.

There are a lot of reasons and factors why they all may have never married.

[CatWoman]

35. Hissy,

of course I didn't think that :hi:

[redwitch]

9. Ok but please don't tell my sons that.

I want grandkids someday. :hi:

[asjr]

4. If you are an unrealistic, sappy fool, you are in

good company. I had no idea none of their children was married. Coretta King was a true lady.

[Horse with no Name]

5. Maybe they didn't feel the world was safe enough

for their children so they opted not to have them.
:cry:

[CatWoman]

7. now, that's a good point

especially after seeing what happened to their Dad.

[Mabus]

13. and the Kennedys

[China_cat]

14. And maybe they thought that their own

continuation of their father's fight would be endangered by having children who could be threatened and held hostage. That the fight for people of color everywhere was more important. I believe Ms. King would have approved that.

[calico1]

18. Or maybe they just don't want to have

children.

[Horse with no Name]

20. Their children would have been targets for sure

I am sure it was a painful decision to make, but this family had already sacrificed so much for their struggles.

[RubyDuby in GA]

42. Trust me they're more interested in fighting for a bigger piece of their

own pie. The infighting among this group of ingrates is unbelievable. Half of the children do follow in their parents footsteps and work toward helping their fellow man and advancing the cause of civil rights and civil liberties and the other half just want more of the faith-based initiative money that the Bush Administration is dishing out (case in point - last year their daughter, The Rev. Bernice King led a march for the gay marriage ban here in Atlanta. Even her own mother said that she was wrong and that this is a civil rights battle http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/01/17_williamsb_wwmlkd/).

Now they are locked in a battle to sell the King Center to the National Park Service. Personally, I think they should donate it to the NPS so that it can get the upkeep that it deserves. I remember going there as a child during a school field trip and it's a wonderful experience for young children - learning about tolerance and what you can accomplish if you stand up for what you believe in. They're fighting amongst themselves about the price. How do you put a monetary amount on a legacy like Dr. King's? Simple answer - you don't. So someone should tell that to his kids.

May this brave lady rest in peace.

[calico1]

8. I'm sure she would not have wanted and of her

children to get married just to produce grandkids. And I am sure that she had many children in her life with all the traveling and speaking she did.

[CatWoman]

12. one does not have to be married to have children

exhibit A: CatWoman.

[calico1]

25. I know that.

But maybe its possible that none of them want to be parents right now for whatever reasons. I don't think its a healthy thing to have children for the purpose of pleasing your parents. That's all.

[JeffR]

10. The real tragedy

Is that this family's gene pool might dry up. America needs Kings now, and all we got was a buck-naked emperor.

[Texasgal]

11. So one must have children to

Fulfill life? :shrug:

[CatWoman]

16. no, not really

but isn't it natural? as in "nature"?

out of four children, not one has become a parent?

you think that's natural?

[redwitch]

22. I read recently that the family was divided

Not speaking to each other over the MLK Foundation? That may have actually been harder for her than the lack of grandchildren.

[CatWoman]

30. the children are not looked upon kindly here

because of the fighting/infighting over the King Center.

[RubyDuby in GA]

43. Right you are. I posted about that.

# 42. She deserved better than this in her final days. I truly respect her. The kids.......not so much, especially the youngest daughter for leading that march for the gay marriage ban last year.

[Texasgal]

32. Sure I think it's natural...

If you don't want to have children your suddenly dismissed as someone who is a freak of nature or something. ( I am not saying that YOU said this ) I am just saying in general. :)

It really isn't anyones business as to Mrs. Kings children have decided not to procreate, it's their business, no one else's.

[redwitch]

15. I think grandchildren would have been a delight and a comfort to her

It is kind of sad. You may be sappy but I agree. Let's be sappy together! :pals:

[CatWoman]

19. awwwwwwwww

:hi:

[Neil Lisst]

17. I'm with you, Cat Woman. Ow!

No grandkids?!!

That's a shame.

If you don't have have kids, you miss the whole point of life, IMHO.

[CatWoman]

21. shhhhhhhhh. Texasgal might hear you

:D

[nickinSTL]

23. that's a really crappy thing to say

some people have perfectly good fulfilled lives without having children.

And what about those of us who can't have children? Should we just give up because we'll just be "missing the point of life"?

I find that really offensive.

[CatWoman]

24. and I'm offended that YOU'RE offended!!!!

[Neil Lisst]

37. There's adoption, which is always needed.

If you can't have children, I hope you'll consider adopting them. There are always kids who need adopting.

Raising kids is the most fulfilling job on earth, but if it's not for you, by all means, don't raise any.

[CatWoman]

41. a DUer, Ulysses and Mrs. Ulysses recently adopted

you should see how happy they are.

They have the sweetest little boy, so adorable.

His name is Chris.

And the dog is completely jealous :D

[nickinSTL]

46. I'd like to...

my fiancee isn't so sure.

So, we'll see. We've got a number of issues, financial and health-wise to work out. If we could manage to work those out while we're still young enough to handle it...maybe.

[BOSSHOG]

29. I don't quite understand

I've been happily married for more than 30 years. We do not have children; not by choice, it just did not happen and we have been pretty good at getting the point of life. We would have liked to have had our own children, but we get along fine on the planet without them.

[redwitch]

34. I can believe that.

A good marriage is a blessing all by itself. :-)

[Neil Lisst]

39. Anyone who is happy without kids, should not raise them.

Anyone who wants kids but cannot have them should consider adoption.

However, anyone who does not want to raise kids should not have or adopt them.

I stated it was my opinion, and I'll reiterate it. Having kids (bio or adopted) is the meaning of life. If you choose not to participate, to not raise kids, well that's fine by me.

[BOSSHOG]

40. What we all might want to do

is take the word "should" out of our vocabulary. My wife and I married young and wanted children. Biology did not happen. We chose not to adopt. 31+ years later we are extremely happy. We "should" not have to consider anything, and having kids is the meaning of (your) life. We did not choose not to have kids, we chose not to adopt.

[Neil Lisst]

50. You say Potato, I say should.

I've already said you shouldn't adopt if it's not for you.

Parse words as you will, but the point remains the same. Some people aren't cut out for parenting, and it is best if they don't raise kids, biologic or adopted.

I think you made a wise decision.

[BOSSHOG]

52. Thanks for letting me know I'm not cut out for parenting

and that I'm the one being reactive. How does one know they are "cut out" for parenting? I "raised" hundreds of young Sailors during my 20+ years in the Navy. And I made a wise decision not to have children because you said so? Let me parse a few more words, you sound like a pain in the ass, arrogant, overbearing "parent."

[Neil Lisst]

53. you're welcome

This thread isn't about you, but you're desperately trying to make it about you.

I've already told you I agree with your decision not to adopt.

I've stated my opinion that raising kids is the meaning of life, and you've stated your opinion that it isn't. Why beat it to death? We disagree. Get on with your life.

[Marnieworld]

49. The meaning of your life not everyones

You implied that a life without kid's has no meaning which is really rude.

[Neil Lisst]

51. I didn't imply it. I said it. And I said IMHO.

It's an OPINION, just like yours.

[Marnieworld]

54. Well then IMO

your life is meaningless. It is completely without purpose or value because it isn't exactly like mine. And you're cartoons suck. Well that's not rude is it? Just randomly insulting someone? That's just my opinion. :eyes:

[xultar]

26. That's sad but we needed her. So perhaps that's why it she didn't

have grandchildren yet.

Furthermore She was angry @ the daughter that marched against gays with the backwards ass homophobe preacher who I swear is Gay himself.

[CatWoman]

33. that was Bernice - the one who discovered her dead in her bed

:cry:

[Totally Committed]

27. Ever see Dexter?

I'm surprised every woman in her 30's isn't camped outside his door! I'm an old woman, but he is one gorgeous man!

But, no... I never realizes none of them was married. Makes me sad. If ever there was a genepool that should be preserved...


TC

[CatWoman]

31. he is so fucking HOT

}(

[Blue_Tires]

36. not everyone wants children

i don't want any for myself, for example....

[CatWoman]

38. Let me try to explain

I have 9 siblings.

Out of the total 10, two are childless.

I have one myself; however, I put myself in your camp. Didn't know it at the time, was just following my sisters'.

I don't think it odd that two are childless. Not in the least.

But out of a family of four, one would expect at least one of them to have a child/children.

[MissB]

44. Well, yeah, you are being an unrealistic, sappy fool.

But that's okay. Maybe none of them want to be married and have kids. A bit unusual for all the kids in a family to choose that route, but it is a valid choice.

I'm sure her life was full. She seemed like the type of person who would make sure of that.

[Mountainman]

45. Yes your are an unrealistic sappy fool.

Giving your parents grand children is not a reason to have kids.

[CatWoman]

47. did I say that?

did I come across that way?

or is that your interpretation?

[wiley]

48. I want my MLK Jr. icon back up,now!

I think the Alito thing killed her. I do hope that the family does not let the federal government have the center.

[Neil Lisst]

55. CatWoman, your comments are sound.

But you're wasting your time arguing with the haters.

Any time you say raising kids is great, someone will take it as a personal insult. Remember, your detractors include young people who can't fathom having kids, but will change their minds, and it includes those who passed on either having or adopting kids, and they feel insulted.

Those who learned the joy of raising kids understand you well, and that's going to have to do.

If you say "peanuts taste good" here, there will be a dozen angry posters who try to pick a fight over it. Consider the source.

[CatWoman]

56. Exactly, Neil

some of the dumb ass "assumptions" people have charged me with, putting words in my mouth and thoughts in my head and fingers on my keyboard.

Must be Alito after effects.

[Neil Lisst]

57. I'm amazed at how some fairly innocuous threads draw such hatred.

You made a perfectly sane post when you started this thread -

Ain't it a shame she never had grandkids.

I agree. To me, the greatest joy of life is having kids, and later, grandkids. This isn't something radical. It's built into our biology, and for good reason. I don't get all the anger about making that observation. Some people choose not to have kids, or cannot have them, and choose not to adopt. I'm always good with that. Having kids is hard, hard work, and if one doesn't feel they want to do that, more power to them. Better for everyone.

[jeanarrett]

58. I agree with both of you and note that both of you used

IMHO at the end of your posts. You both stated that it was your own opinion (happens to be mine too). Do we now have to be careful that other people aren't insulted by our opinions? Move on people.