America Liberated Europe.....???

[truebrit71]

I almost spit out my tea at that little gem....

Yup, them tahr Yurrpeens was just sittin' 'round waitin'.....

Guess my relatives in England fought in a different World War II then...

Mucking Foron... :grr:

[tocqueville]

1. another myth...

the Russians provided vodka, the Brits provided tea and the French provided wine...
:sarcasm:

[DemonGoddess]

2. yah, all the Europeans

rolled over and played possum while waiting to be saved :sarcasm:

[coldiggs]

3. .... what the hell it was the US that liberated europe. along with the UK

[truebrit71]

4. Try reading some history books...

..okay?

Then come back and tell me how the US "liberated" Europe.... :eyes:

[coldiggs]

5. people like you and shit like this is why people say liberals are un patri

otic. It was American forces that liberated Paris and western europe.

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[mitchum]

8. But it was those "godless communists" of the USSR who decisively...

crushed the Nazi death machine.
I also approve of the Soviet approach to denazification. A bullet to the head, NOT a job with NASA or the CIA

[Popol Vuh]

9. I agree

You need to go and try reading some history books. Then come back here and tell us how much of the Nazi death machine was taken on by the Russian Red Army and how much was taken on by a combination of forces on the western front.

[Tom Bombadil]

10. Read some history books friend.

Half of the troops that landed in Normandy on D-Day were British and Canadian. And yes the Poles and french played an important part in the libertion of Europe.

By the way it was communist Russia that won WW2 not the USA.

[manic expression]

13. Wow, you are really clueless

the US fought battles that were skirmishes compared to what was happening on the Eastern Front (not to say they were small, but they were not nearly as significant as the battles in Eastern Europe). Have you ever even heard of a little something called Stalingrad? Kursk? The German military lost a GREAT amount of its ability trying to fight the USSR. Because of this, they eventually lost the war. If the USSR did not deliver such a blow to Germany, the US would have not made nearly the progress it did.

Seriously, look at the difference in mere German troop concentration in the Western Front/Africa/Italy (where the US was fighting) and the Eastern Front.

It's obvious that you don't have a clue. You're claiming things that are so clearly false.

[The Magistrate]

14. U.S. Forces Did Liberate The West Of Europe From The Nazis, Sir

That is a simple statement it is hard to argue with. The greatest weight of man=power and equioment in that theater was supplied by the United States.

It is certainly true the bulk of ground combat against the Reich was waged by the Red Army. Its soldiers deserve tremendous credit and gratitude, and endured tremendous casualties and hardships. They did not fight alone, however, and many things influenced the course of the Russian fighting from beyond its battlefields. One of particular importance is the great diversion of medium artillery to anti-aircraft defense in the Reich. Most of these guns were dual purpose, ans employed as anti-tank weapons with terrific effect. Had several thousand more such been available to Nazi ground forces in Russia post Kursk, the Red Army's armored drives in that period might well have had different results. Another great influence was the disruption of fuel supplies and transport, which hampered Nazi operation in Russia greatly. This owed much more to U.S.A.A.C. bombing than to R.A.F. operations against city centers. The effects of Lend-Lease to Russia are more widely known of, but usually misinterperted, as battle equippment was not to important among them. But transport, communications gear, and food supplied by this program were of tremendous importance. The first two are essential to mobile armored war-fare, and the food supplied amounted to about half the rations issued to the Red Army after 1943.

[truebrit71]

16. It was the ALLIED forces...NOT the bloody Yanks by themselves..

Whilst the Yanks sat on their hands dithering over what to do year after year, the severely outnumbered RAF blow the Luftwaffe out of the sky and prevented an invasion of Great Britain. It was the ALLIED forces that landed in Normandy on June 6th of 1944 that signaled the beginning of the end of the Nazi's. Coupled with the withering and relentless attacks by the Red Army it was only a matter of time before Europe was liberated.

For one country, especially one war-dodging pretzeldent to claim sole domain over the victory is both erroneous and an aggregious slight to those that died so that others could be free...

[manic expression]

11. Oh, really?

Ever hear of something called Russia? The German invasion of Russia was a HUGE blow to their power. Stalingrad, later compounded by Kursk (sp?), was the single most decisive defeat which nearly crippled the Germans. The US fought in relatively minor parts of the war in North Africa, Italy and then France and Western Germany. If the USSR didn't do what they did, there would have been no way the US would have been able to make the progress they did, as a GREAT (understatement) amount of German power was exhausted and spent when their invasion of Russia ended in failure.

Try cracking a history book open now and again. Maybe you'll learn something. Until then, don't make such ignorant and idiotic comments.

[Bjornsdotter]

7. Hey!

We can rewrite history anytime we want! :sarcasm:

Amazing...isn't it.

Cheers!

[truebrit71]

12. People that get their history from movies...

...are the larger problem...It was the ALLIES that liberated Europe. You know, like the Brits, the Canadians, the Free French, the Dutch...THOSE people....The Russians wore the Nazi machine down until it collapsed under its' own foul weight...but according to Boy George and this particalur moron it was the Yanks alone that did it...

[Canuckistanian]

15. Another statement from the Ministry of Truth

Got any Victory Gin?

[Lithos]

17. Locking

The history of WWII was not only one of military battles, but also one of economic miracles performed well behind the lines. The Soviet Union would not have stood without the economic and agricultural might of the US and other Western powers. Britain would never have stood without Lend Lease and the liberty ship miracle of Henry J. Kaiser, but then the US needed Britain as well for the expertise, science and intelligence (Bletchley Park). Also, without the meat grinder that was the Soviet Union, the US and other Western Powers would never have been able to open a second front which sealed the death knell of Germany.

This argument is not only counter-productive, but also offensive. If you wish to discuss Shrub's lack of knowledge, then please do so in that context in a new thread without continuing these arguments.