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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:03 PM
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Poll question: Why did Bush really break the law on wiretapping?
Edited on Wed Feb-01-06 07:04 PM by The Backlash Cometh
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:04 PM
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1. I said other
I think they are spying on political rivals, separate from 9-11
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:05 PM
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2. If we can determine they were doing this prior to 9/11, I would think
that your view is the correct one. But, geez, what chutzpah!
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:07 PM
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3. I think they're spying on you right now... Don't.... turn around....
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:35 PM
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11. Same as Number 3
They don't differentiate.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:07 PM
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4. Spying on political enemies....bet the farm on it...
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:11 PM
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5. Truthfully, I think much of it has to do with pure paranoia.
I mean, COME ON, Vegans, animal rights activists, and Quakers like myself who have never even been to a single rally!!??

And, I do have proof that the DoD has been spying on my computer.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:17 PM
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6. The DoD has been making hits on my PC since early 2001, at least
200 to 300 times a day from June 2001 until very recently, thank god for fire walls, and anti spy ware programing, my fire wall has stopped the majority of DoD hits. Also have a trace back program that tells me who what and where the hit came from. Tired tracing the DoD back and after 3 hours I gave up.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:23 PM
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8. What gets me mad is that there are common day Republicans who
don't care if they're spying on non-Republicans. They hate us so much, they couldn't care less.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:17 PM
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7. Other. He is rubbing our noses in it, to see if we have any guts to
call him on his lawbreaking. We don't, so it will continue, and become even more brazen.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:09 PM
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14. That's it, Nay -
just one more goose-step toward Italy in the 1930's. He did it for the same reason my dog licks his balls - because he can.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:23 PM
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9. LOL....Other.....
Which is sad, because I really think he's surrounded by really stupid people and advisors.

What's sadder, his approval rating isn't under 15 percent. :silly:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:26 PM
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10. I think all it's going to take is to find out just how prevalent his
spying is, and if he spys on even one right-wing group, they're going to go Waco.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:53 PM
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12. I thinks it's political too....
....to get the 'goods' on the opposition that will be used in the 'background'....stuff we don't see hear or read about....'goods' that can firmly sqeeze ones opponents testicles, if they have testicles....
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:01 PM
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13. Jesus told him to.
Actually I voted other: I think he knew it was against the law and didn't care. He feels he's above the law and untouchable.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:15 PM
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15. They are paranoid like Nixon
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:16 PM
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16. What law? Bush reserves the right to break the law. He's above it.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:16 PM
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17. Can I vote for both other and the former?
I don't think they are just spying on reporters and I really don't think it was an accident that they called American citizens "dissidents" over the election issue and several other issues as I recall. Using the term dissident is the perfect excuse to spy on people.

They went around FISA because they knew FISA would either modify their requests or outright deny them. They KNEW they were breaking the law and didn't think they would ever get caught. I actually think they still believe they will never have to divulge the truth. I would guess they are in the process of shredding evidence as we speak and they will classify everything they don't get to and drag their feet on any records request by an impeachment tribunal and/or court of law.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 11:50 PM
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18. They were trying to set a precedent.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:02 AM
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19. Because he could.
He knew that nobody would be able to hold him accountable for it. Same reason he and his criminal enterprise commit all their crimes.

-Laelth
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 12:28 AM
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20. Bush is a dictator and has put himself above the Constitution
Like all tyrants, Bush is intoxicated on power, and he will never be satisfied until Congress and the courts bow to him as the first American emperor.
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