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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:23 PM
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The Army is making it easier for conservatives to join
The Army is lowering standards, letting in those less educated and those who have criminal records. A pure nirvana situation for members of bush's base "conservatives" looking for an opportunity to serve their country. The Army can't meet recruiting goals.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/02/02/waivers/

And why can't the Army make goal with all the flag waving yahoos in our country? "Conservatives" want to kill ragheads and yet they don't take the opportunity to get a free ride over there. Could it be they are pencil dicked cowards? bush is ruining our military and his base is letting him down by not signing up to do the bidding they so proudly support. How incredibly bad does it suck to be a "conservative" in America today?

Is it trick knees? Butt pimples? Other priorities? Genetic ignorance that waivers can't account for? Please would a "conservative" share with this veteran the reasons you and your kind aren't willing to raise your right hand and swear to support and defend.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:24 PM
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1. *snort*
:thumbsup:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:43 PM
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9. yeah fighting WOMEN over there will REALLY like the extra rapists?
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 04:48 PM by Jeffersons Ghost
We need more crime in our armed forces. They're about to announce a plan for IRAN that will make it REAL easy for sit-at-home FREEPERS to join! IT'S CALLED THE DRAFT!

AS A NAM' VET, I LIKE TO SING OUR BRAVE FREEPERS A GOING AWAY SONG ON BOARDS LIKE THIS ONE:

Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way out yonder in Iran
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Reminds me of Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go get those towel-heads —
The only good Muslim is one who's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'um all to kingdom come.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Reminds me of Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Huh!
Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go.
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray if they drop some nukes,
They don’t drop it on our own troops.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Reminds me of Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on mothers, now don’t be sad
Pack your boys off to Baghdad.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your boy come home in a box.
And it's one, two, three
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Reminds me of Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:05 PM
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11. another song
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 05:07 PM by phaseolus
"...Should I hate a people for the shade of their skin
Or the shape of their eyes or the shape I'm in
Should I hate 'em for having our jobs today
No I hate the men sent the jobs away
I can see them all now, they haunt my dreams
All lily white and squeaky clean
They've never known want, they'll never know need
Their shit don't stink and their kids won't bleed
Their kids won't bleed in the damn little war
And we can't make it here anymore

"Will work for food
Will die for oil
Will kill for power and to us the spoils
The billionaires get to pay less tax
The working poor get to fall through the cracks
Let 'em eat jellybeans let 'em eat cake
Let 'em eat shit, whatever it takes
They can join the Air Force, or join the Corps
If they can't make it here anymore..."

http://www.jamesmcmurtry.com/we_cant_make_it_herelyrics.htm
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:46 PM
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26. I kinda stole my song
It was originally a pre-rap kind of chant by Country Joe and the Fish... yours looks original PHASE. I really like it!
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:12 PM
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28. James McMurtry wrote it --
...follow the link in my previous post for the complete lyrics. It's a powerful song.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:25 PM
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2. They're taking mental defectives too.
They're accepting applications who place in Category IV (real dumb) on their standardized tests. And high-school dropouts too.

So tell your retarded conservative brother-in-law who dropped out of high school and has a bunch of DUIs and burglaries that he can finally enlist and fight the War on Terror for real.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:26 PM
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3. Why doesnt dumsey reach out to the US prison systems?
lol.. plenty of "dirty dozens" there...
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smomfr Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:11 PM
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13. That would cut into their slave labor force.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:43 PM
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23. yeah...
Sending all these social outcasts over there will teach all my comrades a lesson: Don't stay too long even if your hitch is up and Bush won't let you come home! Way yo go, tyrant! Treat my brothers and sisters in arms like they deserve. Sick the jail birds on them to steal their stuff while they're out getting shot at in Iraq and then IRAN!
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:27 PM
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4. It's easy
They're cowards, besides it's dangerous in Iraq.

I'm with you on this one, as a veteran myself I'd like an answer to the question as to why Bush's base seem to walk around with permanent yellow stripes down their backs.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:40 PM
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16. BASE???
All the top repukes are cowards and rich-boy punk draft dodgers like freepers here... The really funny thing to me is that when the Nazis come for us true-blues at DU, the FREEPERS ARE GOING TOO!!! Dur Fuhrer has already shown he'll throw his best friends under a bus. With the inefficiency this administration has shown what makes them think the Gestapo will care or take the time to sort through all this junk. I'LL CATCH SOME OF YOU FREEPERS IN CUBA LATER! I WONDER HOW OUR MUSLIM CELLMATES WILL LIKE US AMERICANS! lol
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:07 PM
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19. They have more important obligations.....
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:27 PM
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5. But they still won't take me!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:11 PM
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20. Geez, you gotta have your priorities straight!
It doesn't MATTER if you're too stupid to load your rifle, or if you've been in prison twice for violent crimes - as long as you're not queer!

:sarcasm: You understand I am using the pejorative in a sarcastic sense to highlight the extreme idiocy of this position, because only a freepy repuke would actually think that way or use that word in a derogatory sense.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:27 PM
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6. That's right send all the conservatives to war and killed
Then the democrats, greens etc will be left here.
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:28 PM
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7. This could be signs that a draft may be discussed more
seriously in the near future. I have no proof, just my opinion.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 07:53 PM
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27. If they lower the standards THEN reinstate the draft
They can scoop up more cannon fodder for the war with Iran. I know several draft age men who think they will escape the draft for stuff like color blindness and various physical anomalies. Maybe they will, I don't know.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:37 PM
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8. We must be "sensitive" to the fact...
...that they would join up in a heartbeat but other obligations prevent them from doing so. You really need to be more "sensitive".

Did you ever see that video? A young liberal college student confronts some college Republicans just as they are leaving one of their meetings. He gives them some flyers urging them to join the military only to be accused of pulling some kind of "Michael Moore" stunt and then some clown confronts him and tells him that he needs to be "sensitive" to the fact that these chickenhawks have other obligations that prevent them from joining our soldiers in Iraq. He never gave an example of what these other pressing obligations were, of course.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:44 PM
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10. Let me bore you
with a short story of my lack of sensitivity. A young lad (in his 30's) confronted me in a bar in Slidell, Louisiana in February 2003 and called me a coward because I voiced my objection to going to war in Iraq. (He started the conversation.) He said I should join the Army and go to Iraq to "prove my love of our country." I slapped my military retiree ID card on the bar along with my CPO coin and told the lad of my tour of duty in a combat zone. I then asked him to tell us all about his military duty. He said he hasn't served "yet." He left without finishing his beer. No doubt he waves the flag daily.

MY APOLOGIES TO ALL WHO HAVE READ THIS TALE BEFORE BUT I REMEMBER IT AS IF IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. AND I CHERISH EVERY SECOND OF THAT MEMORY.

and some claim my hate for bush is irrational.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:08 PM
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12. That reminds me of the scene in The Last Detail
where the bartender threatens Jack Nicholson with calling the Shore Patrol. Jack slams his piece and his armband down on the bar; "I AM the motherfucking Shore Patrol motherfucker!"

Yep, I've had that same conversation a few times myself, and they make for nice juicy memories.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:13 PM
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14. In the Marine Corps they teach us to wash our hands after we urinate.
In the Navy they teach us not to piss on our hands. WOW! I'm surrounded by SkyPILOT and MindPILOT. And Mulder just poked his head in. I got The Last Detail on DVD as a Christmas present from wife who has been an outstanding Navy spousal unit. Ain't Jack grand?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:30 PM
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15. I think Last Detail was one of his best performances
No matter how many times I see it, it still cracks me up; that scene at the party where Jack is stoned off his ass trying to impress the hippie chicks with his Signalman expertise; "...talking...to...SHIPS"

"I had it with me..."






We now return you to you originally scheduled thread.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:00 PM
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18. I have my story outside a local COSCO
guy is going crazy about how liberals hate the country, usual lines... I slapped the recruitment papers in his open hand... he looked shocked.

Well you obviously have not served.

Took out military dependent card, this yahoo did not know the difference... and I was joined by two retirees and one active duty... we all offered a ride to the local recruitment station
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:44 PM
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24. 'He said he hasn't served "yet."'
Holy fucking cow, how many times have I heard that crap? I'm like, get a move-on, pudknocker, the bullets are flying!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:37 PM
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29. first time for me to read it bosshog
I enjoyed it emensely... did you tell him the Navy wouldn't work at all without CPOs (Chief Petty Officers?)
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abex Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:45 PM
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17. the goal is an 'all-mercenary' force nt
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:43 PM
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22. the only problem is they are more expensive and destabilising than ...
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 06:45 PM by TheBaldyMan
regular troops, even sub-standard morans in US uniform are better than trigger-happy mercenaries. Private security firms taken as a whole would make the third largest allied troop contingent in Iraq after the Americans and Iraqis.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:34 PM
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21. There's a show that was advertised last night that might make
perfect recruitment material. It was called backyard wrestling. What these kids did just for fun, sounds like the kind of stuff that marines are made of.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 06:54 PM
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25. Title Funny
Your title was funny. I laughed when I realized what you meant.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:57 PM
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30. This is nothing new.
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 02:59 PM by Dulcinea
A guy I know, who was in & out of juvie for most of his youth, was ordered by a judge to join the Army or go to jail when he turned 18. He chose the Army. This was in the early 1980s.
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