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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:30 AM
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The Force of The Big Lie
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 01:05 AM by omega minimo
"All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.

Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.

For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.

-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, chapter X "Why The Second Reich Collapsed"
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:39 AM
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1. nine-eleven...
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:47 AM
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2. Nineteen
Eighty Four
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:49 AM
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3. two plus two
equals five:hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 12:59 AM
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4. 2+2=4
:thumbsup:
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:52 AM
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10. Yes, 9-11 and soon there will be a Hollywood version
which will permanently brainwash the masses. The truth will never come out after that releases.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:34 AM
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11. You guys are all wrong about 9-11
9-11 = -2

:yoiks:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:45 AM
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5. omega, thanks. We need reminders. Recommended!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:48 AM
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6. Yes, we do. Recommended from here, also.
Kick!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:52 AM
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7. ;) n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:07 AM
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8. K&R
:kick:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:23 AM
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9. Someone much wiser than me once said:
If the truth can be told so as to be understood, it will be believed. ~ Terrence McKenna
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:35 AM
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12. I miss him
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 04:35 AM by Moochy
I hope he's enjoying whatever lies beyond, perhaps frolicking with or lecturing to a nice herd of fractal elves.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:56 AM
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15. ACH, NO!
When did he leave us? I was looking forward to reading his newer work... and rereading some of his older stuff. He takes quite a while to absorb, but i see so much more through his view. Any suggestions for exploring more of his stuff?

peace.

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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:12 PM
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17. Mckenna
Archaic Revival and Food of the Gods covers a lot of his psychedelic Hermeneutics. Apparently True Hallucinations is now only available in an edition with Archaic Revival if you'd like both.

Can't remember precisely when McKenna died--98? 99? Something like that. I spent one weekend with him back in 96 or so which confirmed to me that he was the kind of genius that it takes humankind a long time to catch up with. Is everything he says equally 'true'? No, but the catch is that our current frame of ordinary consciousness is itself heavily biased in directions that do not even remotely correspond to the complex and fractal nature of the cosmos. It is only in those moments where "I" realize that "I" am a dynamic and complex field of energy interacting with other fields of energy, some of them operating in quite different temporal dimensions, that 'truth' begins to take on clearer meaning.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:21 PM
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18. Me too! What a mind.
What do you make of the McKenna/Rockefeller connection?

www.earthchangestv.com/ufo/0611rockefellar.htm
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:47 AM
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13. WE know this... We have to shout it.
I am familiar with it and I suspect that most DUer's have thought about it over the course of the past couple of years. THIS is the roadblock in our path. This is what is keeping the momentum from crashing over the administration and sweeping them away like the 9th ward.

I can hear the voice of the American saying "No! THAT can't be true.. they WOULDN'T, they COULDN'T It's just too ridiculous!" It's the same way we react to horrors visited upon a baby... We can't fathom a mind that would conceive something so despicable.

This is why pictures matter. We have to hold their faces to it, and shake them by the shoulders and say "YES!.. YOU would never do anything this awful! BUT THEY DID!

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:43 AM
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16. ....over the past couple of decades........
"have thought about it over the course of the past couple of years."

This is the Reagan legacy (and most of the same cast of characters from Nixon/Reagan era's) in action, in power, in control.

I talked with a co-worker the other the day, who almost gets it but still listens to MSM and the pundit enablers. This was after SOTU and SCOTUS day. She just won't quite go there-- she said:

:If that was true, then our government is totally corrupt and out of control." (and that Can't Happen HERE!!!!!11)

Ya think? :think:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 06:31 AM
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14. The Big Lie leads you to the truth.
The Big Lie of the Bush misAdministration: We will keep you safe.

The founding truth of this administration is that they let 9/11 happen. This is not theory; Richard Clarke, for example, is not a conspiracy theorist.

And that truth is followed by all the other crimes of aggression they have committed against the American people. The poison at Ground Zero, the depleted uranium our troops bring home to their families. Katrina. The death toll in Iraq and our kids coming home shattered in body and soul.

These people are not only wrong and repugnant. They are deadly dangerous.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 10:00 PM
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19. The lie that he was elected..................
twice :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:10 AM
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20. Have never read Mein Kampf guess I should
The tactic of the big lie is being utilized
by these fascists very effectively.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 02:17 AM
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21. Check out the Reagan Big Lie 25th Anniversary Edition
with forward by Karl Rove
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 02:46 AM
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22. Will do
Cheers
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