Where is the politician that can tell the truth ?

[kentuck]

Where is the politician that has the courage to tell the people that the Defense Industry and the armaments builders of this country are robbing our Treasury and destroying our nation? They are not protecting us. They are defeating us. We cannot continue this insanity.

Where is the politician that has the courage to say that we are throwing our young and old overboard in order to enrich the very few at the top? We are quickly becoming a third world nation. We are approaching a financial crisis of our own making.

Where is the politician that will tell the people that the President of the United States is a Grand Liar? Not only does he lie about reasons for going to war, but he lies about threats to our nation, about Social Security, about the condition of the economy, about taxes, and everything that might benefit himself and his wealthy friends.

Where is the politician that can tell the people that we cannot go any further? We are at a crossroads. It is up to the people to decide. Do you want your nation or not? It is up to you.

[napi21]

1. Clostest one I can think of is Howard Dean. n/t

[kentuck]

2. Close but not hardly there...

Even Howard will not take on the Defense establishment and call for drastic cuts in the defense budget.

[Cocoa]

3. Dennis Kucinich

:bounce:

[MuseRider]

5. Yes, but no one

wants to listen.

[Cocoa]

13. no buts about it

Dennis Kucinich. :bounce:

[EST]

4. The competing demands of a political career, throughout

history, would seem to preclude any penchant for truth-telling. Dennis Kucinich seems more honest than most, but notice that he is definitely an anomaly and is shunned, even excoriated, by other, more typical, politicians.

[BlueEyedSon]

6. Bernie Sanders. But I think our political system is designed to screen out

honest men.... in a twofold way:

Truth doesn't raise big money.

People don't really want to hear the truth.

[cali]

9. bernie raises plenty of money

he'll have no problem going up against mega-millionaire richie rich tarrent. and he's about to go from being one out of 400+ to being one out of 100. in other words, the political system here in vermont does not screen honest men or women out.

[BlueEyedSon]

10. 1. Vermont is special 8^) 2. How many Bernies are there around?

(not many, he is the exception)

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. Where are the foreign corporations that can purchase U.S.

corporations and vote for reigning in the U.S. in their boardrooms???

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2005/10/subsidizing_us_.html
For most of recent history, foreigners holding US debt has been 20% or less. The shift began under Bill Clinton, starting around 1993, and accelerated into '94-95. When Clinton finished his 2nd term, foreign ownership of US Treasuries was about 35%.

That ownership has continued to rise under President Bush, and now stands at 52%

[mtnsnake]

8. hmm, the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Hillary Clinton

but my mind's still a little foggy. Slept in today.

[BlueEyedSon]

12. LOL! She is a triangulator, not a truth-teller IMHO.

[Totally Committed]

11. Wes Clark is a truth-teller, par excellence...

He doesn't back off, either.

After he made the "alternate" SOTU the other night, this was written about him:

Today corruption is an everyday part of life. Sin happens. But in an honorable society a leader takes responsibility for his actions. He acknowledges his failure to himself, to his family, to deity and country. He relinquishes the reins of power.

We are no longer a society which honor’s honor. Recently, I had a conversation with a very decent, intelligent and thoughtful young man who said he didn’t have any idea what I meant by honor. We live in a nation of laws, he pointed out. Honor has nothing to do with it. I think he explains it precisely. It is an American dilemma. Can a country live by laws alone? Our country does, but in each segment of our history laws have ultimately failed us and we have had to call upon men of honor at the hour of desperation: Washington, Lincoln, Eisenhower, George Marshall. Very often they were military men."

>snip

"The President tells us, “Americans are addicted to oil.” I think we have been telling him that for the last five years, since he hired oil men and car guys from Detroit to run his Cabinet and tell him what to do. But there is an accusatory attitude here, as there often seems to be with this President. It is somehow a weakness on our part. Do I have this right? Was it not Prescott Bush, the President’s grandfather, who brought these people from New England to Texas in the endless search for oil and new wealth? For a minute I thought I had accidentally switched the clicker to the aggi channel and was listening to Willy Nelson at Farm Aid or Neil Young, tooling around Los Angeles in his biodiesel Hummer."

>snip

"The tenor and tone of the entire speech was to turn away. He seems one foot in Crawford, cutting brush, waiting for the next three years to end. As do so many others.

I turned by contrast to Wesley Clark. Two days before President Bush was to give his annual State of the Union speech, Wesley Clark was invited to deliver a speech at The New America Foundation in Washington, D.C. It was a great speech. And what pervades it is that to which I was drawn to him early on.

General Clark is old school. He lives by the rules, but he also lives by a code of honor. It pervades every utterance and every act. I heard him speak a number of times in the New Hampshire primary and I think it frightened people. And what I thought that meant was this: We admire men like that. But we are not yet ready to turn to a man of honor. Our failure is not yet great enough."

>snip

"How deep must we descend? How great must our failure be until we turn in panic and disgrace to a Man of Honor?"

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/27/3627/2006-02-01.asp?wid=27&nid=3627

TC

[Joe Fields]

14. Another important point is, where is the outrage among citizens?

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[Tom Rinaldo]

16. Clark tells the truth, even when his supporters would rather not hear it

He's telling the truth about Iran right now for example. Clark exposed PNAC plans in 2002 and 2003. Clark is also saying the United States must move toward single payer health care insurance. Clark called for reversing media consolidation in his 2004 run, and right after that his free air time dropped off the charts. Clark flat out called himself a "Liberal", defining it as an honorable and patriotic American political philosophy. Clark defended the concept of Progressive Income Taxes, saying those who can afford to pay more should pay more. And a lot more. If you haven't read heard or seen his "Real State of the Union Address", please check it out and tell me if you think he is speaking the truth:

http://securingamerica.com/node/560

[Burning Water]

17. A politician that can

tell the Truth?

I've only found one. Look in Alternate Reality 1Z777QAS-T1-4545XYZ. Name's Joe Smith.

[Odin2005]

18. Many are forced to lie.

because telling the truth may make you end up like Carter or Mondale. People don't like the truth when it hurts, thats why Reagan beat Carter.