"Folks, Get a Clue"

[Capn Sunshine]

I found this while looking for info in Echelon, the NSA program from the '90s.

Folks, get a clue. Remember the FBI/CIA/NSA scrapped their plans to develop spying software (Carnivore)?

Why?

Because they found EXTANT COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS to do the spying for them,

What extant commercial applications?

1. MICROSOFT WINDOWS: A purposeful back door that provides easy access to your computer without your even being aware of it. Windows XP is a spy system that uploads the content of your internet cache to Microsoft every 15 days. It’s in the registry. XP replaced Windows 95/98 which had been the subject of the antitrust inquiry. . . a prosecution suddenly dropped shortly before the Carnivore program was scrapped.

2. AOL: On the brink of economic collapse, AOL is mysteriously bailed out of bankruptcy at the last minute. GUESS WHY? AOL is also a back door!

Ask any software professional.

It’s true.

Of course der Shrubenfuherer has been spying on you. Donjcha get it? That’s why they did 9/11! So they could turn the U.S. into a police state.

They’ll need a military crackdown after the economy collapses and 280 million Americans are forced out of their jobs, homes and lives.

They have 59 concentration camps all ready to house millions.

Google it.

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Hey, any computer geeks that want to confirm this for us?

[ret5hd]

1. Got linux?

[TheWraith]

2. Paranoid delusion of the highest order

There are some dubious "features" of XP, such as calling home to Microsoft when you do a file search on your PC, but nothing like what the author of that piece describes. If you want to see for yourself, just install a two-way firewall like the old AtGuard. It will show you what applications try to access the internet, and when.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious towards the end of the text that this is somebody who's off their meds.

[Double T]

3. Well, I guess that means it is time to destroy my computer,......

trash my modem and abandon the internet 'cause the last thing my government will steal from me is my own privacy. It has been nice while it lasted!! See ya............

[ninkasi]

18. I guess I'm addicted

I'm not going to give up the internet. Good looking dog, by the way.

[JackintheGreen]

4. 59 concentration camps?

Really? What an exact number. And 280,000,000 Americans forced from job and home. Let's see...

That's 4.75 million for each camp, assuming we all go to one. And, say, Philadelphia houses just over 1 million, for example. Are they hiding the camps under your tinfoil hat?


I have no idea if the techy stuff is correct, Capn, but this other stuff posted by ??? is freakin' fascinating!

[Jackpine Radical]

5. Now, THERE'S a straw-man argument for ya.

Nobody has suggested a need to lock away the entire US population. Just terrorists like antiwar demonstrators, Quakers, environmentalists & the like. Maybe a few million tops. How many did the Soviets have in the Gulags?

[neoblues]

6. Well, if we can't catch them...

We can lock ourselves up... which is pretty much what we're doing when we give up our civil rights (by the inch or by the yard).

[Journeyman]

7. According to Boris Souvarine, author of "Stalin: A Critical Survey. . .

of Bolshevism" (1939), in the late '30s, W. Krivitsky, "whose excellent source is the GPU: 'Instead of the 171 million inhabitants calculated for 1937, only 145 million were found; thus nearly 30 million people in the USSR are missing.'" And this, keep in mind, occurred after the dekulakization of the early thirties which cost an estimated 8 million human lives.*

These are only the dead. Those in the Gulags at the time, transpiring to death, can only be guessed at. The dead, though, account in this estimation to some 20 percent of the populous. Extrapolated to a modern society such as America would require some 60+ millions to be processed, and then there's the necessary continuoul influx of raw material to keep the factories operational, etc.


*Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, Book 3: "Totalitarianism," Chapter 10: "A Classless Society," (1973) p 310 fn15
Souvarine, op cit, p. 669

[SpiralHawk]

15. Don't forget the vegans

A Secure Homeland can't have vegans roaming around all over the place.

The vegans are coming to get you.

But Big BushCo will save you...

[Arkansas Granny]

8. This may sound like tin foil hat territory, but Halliburton was

awarded a $385 million contract by DHS to build detention centers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/national/04halliburton.html?8br

With a little imagination you could see these being built for other than the applications listed in the article.

[karynnj]

14. $385 million to other companies may build a lot,

but how much got built in Iraq from the millions awardes to Halliburton.

[Arkham House]

11. OK--

Suppose the Stalin-Hitler comparisons are absurd and over the top. Suppose it's "only" as bad as, say, Pinochet's war on the Left in Chile? Do you really think that something of that nature, after another "terror attack" and/or mass protest after the upcoming war on Iran, is out of the question? I don't...it wouldn't really be much different from the mass assault on the Left in the 1917-21 era, or the WW II internment camps... It might not be the Gulag--but it damned sure could "happen here"...

[sandnsea]

17. Black helicopter crowd

used to talk about the camps and Klintoon back in the day. Between the Talibornagain, Neocons, Militia and now this, I actually have to start keeping track of which Twilight Zone I'm in on an hour to hour basis.

[Capn Sunshine]

9. 59 Camps

All I got when I googled was a very nice collage project on the Japanese internment camps.

But as a point , it's not much of a leap to see where the Bushco contracts to build "emergency camps" as a contingency against Avian Flu or other pandemics could be beefed up to include locks that only work from the outside :scared:

[JackintheGreen]

12. Agreed, agreed...

And I tremble at its contemplation, but I just find such specificity BIZARRE.

[wildbilln864]

19. Here's a link...

to something I found a while back. Not very credible but here it is anyway.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

[Mz Pip]

10. Until BushCo comes out

in support of gun control and gun confiscation I'm not going to be too worried about this. We have a very armed populace. I doubt anyone is going to quietly go to some camp.

As much as people like to compare what's going on now with Nazi Germany there are a couple of huge differences. This country is huge and ethnically very diverse. IT would be much harder to pull off a Holocaust here.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[AndyA]

13. I agree, but

I wouldn't want to be put in a position where we had to test out your theory, if you know what I mean... :scared:

[Woman_Warrior1]

16. Me neither!

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