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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:54 PM
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DUers! What do you think of protesters at funerals? Vote!
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This is about the Phelps campaign and his protests at mostly soldiers funerals. You can only imagine what misery he causes those grieving families must experience. In my opinion, burials are private and families should not have to put up with the offensive garbage of people who have no business being at the gravesite. I really don't see the First Amendment right to invade a private family funeral. Set me straight if you do.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:56 PM
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1. Some people are a few steps behind in evolution...
... still sliming their way out of the primordial sludge...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:02 PM
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3. You sure you have the direction of the crawling right?
I think it's Darwin in reverse.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:10 PM
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7. .
:spray:


Very true... a very, very, very funny!
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Todd B Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:58 PM
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2. I certainly don't think they should be restricted.
Granted, it's incredibly tasteless and horribly insensative, but as soon as the government makes a rule saying you can't protest at funerals, where would they draw the line.

Besides, you still have to remain outside the gates - usually the police will keep them at a distance. Let them protest, the only thing that they'll gain from it is being perceived as an a** among the general public.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:02 PM
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4. I agree
They are the scum of the earth, but if we curtail their rights, what is next? Besides, they are the best thing we Democrats have going!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:51 PM
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16. In this case, I disagree...
It's similar to the march in Skokie, and the same legal arguements can be made about the limits of the 1st Amendment. Sometimes (rarely) free speech can hurt someone, and a funeral protest is designed to target, intimidate and traumatise individuals when they are most vulnerable.

Phelps can go to the public square like everyone else - he doesn't need to be harassing widows.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:04 PM
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5. I'd like to know where they get their $$$$
Maybe we should just go for civil suits (pain and suffering) and bankrupt the bastards...?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:09 PM
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6. Tomorrow will be interesting with them at the King funeral
and Bush too....

IMHO too many crazies for a funeral.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:13 PM
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8. Phelps doesn't have many friends ....
Should protests at funerals be restricted?
Yes, people should be allowed to mourn in peace 92%
No, it's an American's constitutional right to peacefully demonstrate anywhere 8%
Total Votes: 21,015
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:20 PM
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9. That's not a religion. That is a blood-sport Phelps practices.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:28 PM
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10. Why now?
Yes it is terrible but where has everyone been? They have been doing this to anyone they thought or knew was gay or had gay friends or worked for GLBT rights for years and years and no one was making rules about that. It kind of pisses me off that now they get all upset about this.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:34 AM
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25. Yes! I knew about the protests at Matt Shepard's funeral
and it was appalling. Phelps is an old story to many of us here at DU. You are right, it is only when Phelps targets the people in the socalled "mainstream" that it gets attention in the public. A story in my local paper brought out that fact and the paper is running a "sound off" where readers can call in with a brief statement. As you can imagine, these "soundoffs" regularly get freeped, but I try to do what I can by calling in with my statement. Sometimes my remark gets published, sometimes not.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:18 AM
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26. He was not getting enough
attention anymore so he found a way to escalate the emotions. Now he is in his own little "hog heaven".

I don't know what will be next but as soon as people start ignoring him with this he will find something and it will start all over again. I wish people would ignore them.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:42 PM
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11. I don't give a damn where anyone protests. It should be their right.
I very much despise the people protesting at C King's funeral but I firmly believe that they should have the right to do so. And in doing so it makes a stark contrast to the life of the deceased and the lives of those protesting at her funeral...and world sees the difference.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:33 PM
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12. It gives the RWs some choice ammo to use against us. NT
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:37 PM
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13. Why is that? Phelps is a loonie RIGHT-winger.
If anything -- he's only making the reddest, red little church deep in the heart of Republican country look more like the nasty, creepy R-thugs they are.

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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:07 AM
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23. A VERY little church
Last I looked, his "church" had about 65 members.

Really more of a terror cell than a church.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:45 PM
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15. Meh!
At what point do Dems stop sitting around wringing their hands worried about the right wing spin?
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:43 PM
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14. No new law needed; just "look the other way" while
the next-of-kin - preferably a lumberjack type - "defuses" the situation.

...O...
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:57 PM
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17. For God's sake, leave grieving families ALONE!!
Edited on Mon Feb-06-06 11:57 PM by Neil Lisst
I don't care if their loved died from being executed for a heinous crime, leave families alone when they bury their death.

Good God almighty!
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:08 AM
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18. There are limits to everything
for instance, you can't go into a theater and protest a movie you don't like by disrupting it. You can picket outside the theater as long as you don't block people from coming and going from the theater or from walking down the street past it. I think it's disgusting and tacky to protest a funeral, of all things, but once you start banning protests anywhere, where do you draw the line?

I certainly wouldn't protest even at a Phelps funeral. I'd respectfully wait until it was over and then stand in the line like everyone else and wait my turn to piss on his grave. :)

Steven P. :kick:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:14 AM
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19. I think it is beyond tacky
But it is within their right.

Let 'em keep doing it, and they will attract fewer folks to their "cause".
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:32 AM
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20. I think Fred Phelps will burn in Hell
There is nothing "Christian" about him or his cult.



Liberal bumper stickers
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:44 AM
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21. Funerals are private and personal. Mo protests should be allowed.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:00 AM
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22. its tasteless, crass, and just plain mean.
when Dr. King said "We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plain of dignity and discipline.", This is exactly the sort of stuff he was referring to.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:07 AM
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24. I think that public demostrations or protests
ought to be public. They should not be directed at private individuals or family functions. Is the public place still "public" when it is providing private service?

When a small group of people is determined to wade this far over the boundaries of good taste and civility, is there another way to address them? Where do they get their support? Do the demonstrations indicate political activity that can take away their tax-exempt status?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:17 PM
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27. I have one word to solve this: Cremation. n/t
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