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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:49 AM
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Attorney General Gonzales Testimony - conclusion cartoon
Tuesday's cartoon is UP and ready for your viewing pleasure.

After he spent all day refusing to answer any of the money questions about how the NSA could be spying on tens of thousands of Americans, illegally, without warrants, I decided to help him explain it for you.

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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:18 AM
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1. Right on
It's true too
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:27 AM
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2. Tiggeroshii, it's as close to the truth as we'll get without subpoenas
The truth is, their data mining has involved millions of Americans, not tens of thousands. N.S.A. isn't reading DU to find leads on terror suspects. They're looking for opponents of the Bush administration to harass, intimidate, spy on, and disrupt.
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wysiwyg Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:09 PM
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6. It's pretty sad having to hope they hang themselves
Since the Republicans have control over investigations and subpoenas as this point it's pretty sad that we have to hope for the Bush administrations and the Republicans in general to be so overconfident they do something too awful to ignore.

So far the media has spent years ignoring as much as possible and the Democrats have mostly been too timid to speak out for fear of how the public will react.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:45 PM
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7. You're right. They control all the powers, and media are impotent.
Remember when the media actually INVESTIGATED wrongdoing in government?

Now, it's ADHD media.

Hey, this domestic spying sounds serious, but THERE'S A GROOM WHO WENT MISSING AT SEA, AND DON'T FORGET THAT WHITE GIRL THEY NEVER FOUND!!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:26 AM
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3. Page TWO, as Paul Harvey likes to say
the second of the two parter on Gonzo the Liar
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 04:22 AM
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4. Life is like a box of chocolates
except when it isn't

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:15 PM
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9. but it is ... for the privileged few
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:21 PM
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11. It is for Bush, a boy of privilege, who simply cannot empathize.
He's taking us back to the 1950s, in every sense, including making air conditioning and central heating only affordable for the most financially able.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:56 AM
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5. It's almost lunch, so I'll kick this UP
same theme as Monday, different text
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:53 PM
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8. Ok, this is my question...
Chimp claims he's only spying on calls from Al Qaeda coming into the United States...how do they know in advance the calls are from Al Qaeda? Are they listed in a phone book somewhere? Don't they change cell phones ever, or do they use the same ones. How does NSA know, when a call comes in, that it's from Al Qaeda?

Even someone like me, who knows almost nothing about technology, has a hard time believing this fantasy. I find it much more believable that Bush is spying on his enemies...anybody who doesn't worship him. For America citizens to accept that the president violates the Constitution, which he swore to uphold and defend, and breaks the law regarding warrantless spying, is something I'm having a hard time dealing with.

Have we become so weak, such a nation of cowards and bedwetters, that we're willing to surrender our civil liberties to a cretin who couldn't even help a major city recover from a hurricane, after advance warning? I think that people are waiting for strong Democratic leaders to speak out, in unified voices, opposing Bush and his dictatorial administration.

Thank you once again, Neil, for your cartoon, which boils down the idiocy of the government's position in just two panels. I've said it before, but I'll repeat it...people who are hurried, don't have the time to read entire articles or for one reason or another haven't followed the government spying issue, these people see cartoons, and hopefully the message will stick, and encourage them to pay closer attention to what's happening in our country. We can only hope, and thank those of you who try.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:19 PM
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10. ninkasi, I couldn't agree more with you
When guys like Senator Ted Kennedy and Bush's Brain author James Moore end up on the NO FLY list, with never an explanation, it's hard to think anything BUT political retribution is taking place. There are over 100,000 on the NO FLY list, and it's mainly activists who oppose Bush. It's the HASSLE WHEN THEY FLY LIST.

When NSA and IRS headquarters both visit my cartoon website the same day, and come through the link in a thread on this board about an anti-Bush cartoon, it can't be for any legitimate purpose. It's political spying and monitoring done by government employees, on government time, using government resources. It's illegal, and they do thousands of times a day with me, or other DUers, or anyone who disagrees with Bush.

He's a tyrant, and there will always be willing brownshirts among those charged with upholding the constitution who reject that duty in favor of their own twisted political agenda.

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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:44 PM
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12. It's gettin', it's gettin', it's gettin' kinda hectic
and it's getting late in this day, so I'm kicking this up again

In three hours, Wednesday's cartoon goes up.

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