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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:45 AM
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Leahy, Dems and Repubs take issue with Bush's spying argument

GOP senators add heat on spying


Specter urges AG to get court review
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | February 7, 2006

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Specter rejected Bush's argument that Congress had effectively authorized Bush to spy on Americans without warrants when it gave him broad authority to use force against the perpetrators of the 2001 terrorist attacks. He said his fellow senators had been ''shocked" by that contention and that the administration's legal position ''just defies logic and plain English."

Graham said the administration was putting soldiers and intelligence officers at risk of prosecution by asking them to follow orders that violate the law. He said Congress would be much less willing to give presidents the authorization to use force in future crises because of the administration's expansive view of the powers the authorization conveyed.

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Democrats echoed those themes, but were more harsh in their rhetoric. Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the committee's ranking Democrat, claimed to speak for ''every single member of Congress no matter what their party or their ideology" in offering a message for Gonzales to take back to Bush.

''Under our Constitution . . . we make the laws," Leahy said. ''If you believe you need new laws then come and tell us. If Congress agrees, we'll amend the law. If you do not even attempt to persuade Congress to amend the law, then you're required to follow the law as it's written. That is as true of the president as it's true of me and you and every American. That's the rule of law."

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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/02/07/gop_senators_add_heat_on_spying/?page=2





No one is above the law is rhetoric?
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:51 AM
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1. Why do they seem content to merely chastise *co. ?
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 07:52 AM by Quakerfriend
What is with this, "If you want laws amended just ask us.."

He broke to law and GOT CAUGHT and this is a high crime!

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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:58 AM
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3. I agree
He must be held accountable for his law breaking.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:36 PM
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7. They didn't think that they needed to amend it--above the law and all
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:57 AM
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2. Of course it's rhetoric.
Rhetoric is the art of speaking or writing effectively and persuasively. Contrary to popular belief, it's not a perjorative.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:09 AM
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4. Persuasive or not (ignorance exists), the truth is the truth. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:30 AM
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5. Sorry, words mean something.
Ignorance on the part of the reading public is not the problem of a journalist.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:22 AM
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6. See, the truth doesn't have to be persuasive to be true. n/t
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