gulfcoastliberal
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Tue Feb-07-06 08:47 AM
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Poll question: "We can do better" Will this empty slogan translate to victory? |
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Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 08:48 AM by gulfcoastliberal
Saying "we can do better" but not providing concrete details and plans for Americans showing exactly WHAT we'd do better is meaningless. Gov Kaine's speech, which was mercilessly speared by Jon Stewart, goes to show we're adrift with no plan for hitting back at the repukes, other than an empty phrase. Again, we fall into the Rovian "weak on security"" BS because we refuse to take the offensive and attack Bush on weakening the military with these yearlong Iraq deployments, stoploss, and the fact that we're training and breeding terrorists, not stopping them. OBL supposedly still alive. Al Zarqawi (sp?) still around - we knew where his camp was before the start of shock/awe and made a political decision not to destroy it so he could be used as propaganda later. Can't drag up a link now cause I gotta run to work.
But the bottom line is this DLC plan of defending unconstitutional domestic spying, passing whatever budget Bush wants, and offering voters a mealy mouthed slogan WILL NOT translate to victory.
Your thoughts? Sorry I can't stay but gotta run. I'm just steamed at what Vilsack said and the idiocy of the DNC beltway sloganeer's. Please add to the discussion. We keep up with the "better way" slogan and we might as well accept a repuke dominated congress after the next election.
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Tue Feb-07-06 08:49 AM
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1. In other words, you're more interested in bashing Democrats |
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and babbling nonsense than actually winning in 06. Thanks for nothing.
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Moochy
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:39 AM
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You should know it when you see it I guess. Onion Fart.
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AndyA
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Tue Feb-07-06 08:53 AM
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2. The phrase is too generic |
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Is it "We can do better" in the sense that Democrats can do better?
Or is it "We can do better" in the sense that America can do better than we are?
I think it needs to be something more positive and less generic.
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:00 AM
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3. We need to say the "How" in just few words |
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You're quite right. It is way too generic.
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:02 AM
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4. It's a singularly unambitious slogan. It sounds like the Dems are only |
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shooting for just edging out the Republicans. I am very scornful of what it says about the leadership. It makes me want to say, "And maybe there's another party that can do even better than you."
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:06 AM
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5. Suuurrrreeee....and have Bob the Builder as the logo. |
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:07 AM
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6. Back to the Future would be an improvement. Anything would, really. |
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:07 AM
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7. When politicians learn that backing up words with actions is what works, |
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and appropriate actions. You don't chat up 'energy conservation' and 'alternative energy' and then go about slashin' programs regarding those very concepts...
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:21 AM
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8. That's exactly the problem -- better at what? |
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Better at trying to act like an Empire? Better at being a world citizen? Better at ensuring our future? Better at taking care of our citizens?
There doesn't seem to be any agreement within the party elect about this, so the 'we can do better' slogan sounds like the meaningless 'New and Improved!' banner on a box of laundry detergent...
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Arkansas Granny
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:38 AM
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9. We have to follow up the phrase with some real solutions or it's |
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:50 AM
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11. It's a Paul Wellstone phrase.....But Wellstone MEANT IT |
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Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 09:51 AM by Armstead
Wellstone used thatas a catch phrase in at least one of his speeches.
BUT he also went on to connect that to changes for better values and better policies of liberalism. He didn't use it as an empty buzzword for "better management" of the same old shit.
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Tue Feb-07-06 09:59 AM
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12. I guarantee this "slogan" was the brainchild of |
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the same consultants/pollsters/strategists whom Carville and Begala talk about in their book. It's say,really. They told Kerry that "swing voters" respond better to a "positive" message. And even though that erroneous belief cost us the election, they can't possibly admit they were wrong and advocate a different direction Why? Because they wouldn't be hired any more if they do. Who wants to hire a consultant or strategist who's full of shit, who's stragegy is a proven loser? Much better to convince as much of the leadedrship as possible that they were right, and that we lost for a host of other reasons.
Tim Kaine has now joined the ranks of the judo cheessed. But he's in good company.
Think I'm full of shit? Ask John Kerry. When the chief victim of the "all positive all the time" strategy rejects it for the opposite approach while distancing himself from the judo chessers who ran his campaign, it ought to tell you something.
You heard it here first: if this approach prevails as the DNC and our candidates staff and consultant "up" for novemeber, we have no prayer of taking back the house or senate.
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