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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:32 PM Original message |
Remember the Big Shift around 1980? We can create a New Turning Point now. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. The one thing they forgot was to control the quantity of the populace |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It's really simple, actually |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. a rerun of early 1930's might save us. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Let's hope it doesn't require that |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I'm sorry |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So they must be closer! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Bad times are here |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. "Slow-motion depression" was the term Kennedy used in a speech |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Or Fast-Motion Regression |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yes! nt |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. The 1970s is an instructive example: |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-08-06 06:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Thanks for your instructive post. It really put things in perspective. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Here is the problem |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. It depends on what you are looking at -- and through what filter |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. Reagan rode the back of the Ayatollah Khomeini |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. His bigger message is what resonated |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. He gave the bigots and the selfish the green light be even more |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I wouldn't underestimate the reasons |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. This statement, "There was a need to reevaluate a lot of things at the... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. No, I recognized reality at the time |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. What raygun did was to cripple the governments ability to respond |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I agree with that |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. And I didn't make it clear that I am trying to get somebody that |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Emotions are what originally what pushed me to the left |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Yes, that is the key. The liberal ideal is the most appealing social |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thank you, thank you, thank you. (And Recommended, too.) |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Thanks |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Grieving is a step along that way. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I would only add that the emergence of the DLC was to take advantage |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Law of Unintended Consequences -- Very accurate term |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I just heard Biden interview with Terry Gross on PBS and |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Exactly -- There are philosophical differences |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I worry that McCain and Biden are so Close! Do they both live in Bubbles |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's difficult and dishonest to dumb down our message... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
31. Good post. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
32. What makes our task very hard, however, is that |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. In unity there is strength |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. It might take a decade or two to undo their DAMAGE...but we've got to |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. Speak out! |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I like that story -- it reminds me a bit of the |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-07-06 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
37. Logical conclusion to 25 years of conservative policies |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-08-06 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
41. Remember the Big Lie around 1980? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-08-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. The obvious contradictions in the CON Job are what get me perplexed |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-08-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Analogy? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-08-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The difference is in degree |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-08-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. "Drinking the Koolaid" still suggests a voluntary act |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-08-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. We should fight the Big Lie with the Big Truth |
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