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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:34 PM
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Clinton Defends Contribution to Casey
NEW YORK Feb 7, 2006 (AP)— Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is defending her contribution to a Democratic Senate candidate who opposes abortion, saying he is needed for the party's struggle against Republicans.

Clinton, an abortion rights supporter who many people think will run for president in 2008, acknowledged Monday she had contributed $10,000 last year from HillPAC, her political action committee, to Pennsylvania State Treasurer Bob Casey, a Democrat challenging Republican Sen. Rick Santorum.

Casey is running well ahead of Santorum in many polls but is meeting fierce resistance from some women's organizations because of his anti-abortion stance.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1589078&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

I just don't understand this. Zogby found that Santorum loses against ANY of the dem candidates in the race, and Pennacchio, who, unlike Casey would have OPPOSED the Alito confirmation, finishes 4pts higher against Santorum than Casey does.

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Zogby International conducted interviews of 850 likely Pennsylvania voters online on January 26th and 27th. The poll consisted of 22 questions related to the PA race for US Senate and a total of over 70 questions, including 27 issue-related questions on impeachment, Bush’s NSA spying and hearings, electronic voting, war in Iraq, withdrawal from Iraq, nationalized health care, privatization of voter registration and election technology and more.
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The poll is the first to ask about all five PA US senate race candidates and provide positions each holds.

When people find out about candidate positions on key issues, Casey plummets from a twelve point lead to a dead heat, with a non-significant two point lead.

Santorum loses when matched with any of the democratic candidates. Both of the self identified progressive democratic candidates draw higher percentages than Casey, with Pennacchio having the largest percentage of votes against Santorum, at a not quite significant 4.4 points higher than Casey. Casey, at non-significant levels, actually gets MORE votes from Republicans once they find out more about him and Santorum.
Casey refused to respond, so we constructed his positions from media and speeches.
OpEdNews.com's conclusion on this race-- Santorum wants Casey as his opponent because he wins the demographic game. Casey loses massively in some categories, when voters find out about Casey, which Santorum will sure insure. For example, Casy's support among 18-24 year olds drops from 63% to 40%, with Protestants, it drops from 47.3% to 30%, with liberals, from 95.4% to 68%, with moderates, from 64% to 53%, but Casey actually gains support from conservates, going from 3.9% to 5%, a non-significant, but interesting finding.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_rob_kall_060127_opednews_com_2f_zogby_.htm
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:40 PM
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1. People get on my nerves
We need all the seats we can get and some people are more worried about fighting other Democrats
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:40 PM
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2. Bob Casey appears to be DLC
He is listed on their site, but not in the same membership list.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:49 PM
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4. who gives a crap as long as he's kicking Santorum ass.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:54 PM
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5. Why would you support a Pro-Lifer when
"Pennacchio, who, unlike Casey would have OPPOSED the Alito confirmation, finishes 4pts higher against Santorum than Casey does."
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:26 PM
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12. I have no objection to one's ideology,
just as long they don't try to legislate it.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:56 PM
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6. Did you notice the poll I posted? He *isn't* the strongest dem in the race
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 03:27 PM
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13. perhaps there were other more important attributes.
I simply don't believe a Democrat would even try to legislate their pro-life ideology. I think we need to allow them the right to believe what they believe, as long as they keep it out of my face.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:13 PM
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8. Quinnipiac says Casey's walloping Santorum 50%-38%
and that more than two thirds of Pennsylvania's Democrats think Casey's views are mainstream.

Furthermore, more women than men plan to vote for Casey.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11379.xml?ReleaseID=858
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:45 PM
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3. For a moment, I thought this was about her helping Camp Casey...
I see I was mistaken.

My bags.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:56 PM
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7. People need to look at the big picture
We must get the Republicans out of control of this country. We must return balance to our government.

There are going to be people we need to support that we can't agree with 100% - but they must receive our support none the less. Compromises are sometimes necessary for the greater good.

I believe women should have the right to decide for themselves, and it's not someone else's place to tell them what they can or can't do, but the bottom line is if Santorum is out, we've done a good thing.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:36 PM
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10. If you replace Santorum with someone equally bad
who votes with the fascists against the public, what the hell does it matter if there's a "D" after his name?

It's still part of the problem, not the solution.

Your argument is specious.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:10 PM
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11. and so is your argument.
He is most definitely "not as bad."
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 04:08 PM
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14. It Matters In This Way, Captain
A person with the "D" after their name will count towards determining the majority in the Senate, and so aid to put that in the hands of Democratic leadership. Majority in the Senate means majority on every Senate committee, and control of the submission and debate of bills. We need these popwers in the hands of Democrats, and out of the hands of Republicans.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:31 PM
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9. opednews.com and Rob Kall aren't the most reliable of sources
They are an article a few weeks ago about Casey being a DLCer, despite the fact that Casey has no ties to the DLC.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_060125_dlc_golden_boy_casey.htm
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