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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:54 PM
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If the US nukes Iran, some of the neighboring
countries may get some of the fallout—literally. It depends on in which direction the wind is blowing when the bomb drops.
Countries that border Iran are: Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Turkey.

Aren’t those countries worried about the fallout? Aren’t they going to be p.o. if they get fallout?

I realize that the * cabal won’t care if they do-—but the Saudis are supposed to be our friends.

Am I missing something here?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:04 PM
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1. looks like you "cover" the Mid-East pretty well to me racoon
If you'll pardon another pun... What about the more urgent threat of ongoing political "fall-out" in Western Europe? Shall we drop another nuke there... I mean we have SOOOOOOO many in storage... I wonder how much of this $500 billion defense budget goes into nuclear programs that are already obsolete.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:37 PM
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5. Won't happen. No oil there. nt
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:09 PM
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2. How is this even thinkable?
If we nuke Iran we deserve everything that is going to happen to us as a consequence. We would be guilty of a war crime on the level of the horrors perpetrated by the nazi regime.

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:11 PM
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3. That's why I'm asking, because to me, ANY country using
nukes is unthinkable.

I only hope the junta is full of bluster and bluff about this.
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:36 PM
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4. What if we nuke them in retaliation?
Say, after they nuke us or an ally. Hypothetically speaking of course.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:38 PM
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6. If an American city is nuked, or if there is a nuclear accident
there (such as Chernobyl), it will make New Orleans after Katrina look like a fricking Sunday school picnic.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:41 PM
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7. well, that would be just like the script , wouldn't it?
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 02:42 PM by Capn Sunshine
See "PNAC" for further details. Hypothetically speaking of course.
Beause Iran really has a death wish, and we all know it. They don't want their children to see adulthood. They don't want to grow old.
They. Just. Want. To . DIE.

Don't they.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:47 PM
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9. That would be different of course.
Justifiable response, wouldn't you say?
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:06 PM
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11. At that point, yes
An act of war like a nuclear attack will make any practically any retaliation acceptable. Its always a good thing to be clear about these things (of course the Iranians should know this already.....)

Thats how the whole MAD thing works: no misunderstandings.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:10 PM
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12. So then...
You would certainly agree that if we go out and nuke Iran without being first nuked ourselves that we would be justifiably nuked in return.

My point exactly.
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:19 PM
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14. What comes around, goes around
I would expect American civilians to pay a heavy price, eventually, if their government were to first-strike with WMDs. Especially on a civilian target.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:27 PM
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15. You know that's right.
"I would expect American civilians to pay a heavy price,if..."
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:59 PM
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10. First, we make sure who actually did the nuking....
It would be really "convenient" if mysterious terrorists could be traced to Iran.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:45 PM
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8. If U.S. nukes Iran, Iran sends 5-6 armored divisions into S. Iraq
and, possibly, Afghanistan and rolls up our forces in one or both countries. You think the Iranian hostage crisis (1979-80) was bad?
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:16 PM
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13. Get real!
If Bush talks about it, its a lie and a diversion.

On March 20th oil rich Iraq will switch from the to Dollar the Euro for their petro...this is outrageous and can not be a trend that is allowed from BushCo's point of view...The world has always traded oil for dollars and BushCo controls the dollar.

When Saddam Hussein went with the Euro and decided not to trade in Dollars, Iraq was invaded. Now the US controls Iraqi oil and its being traded for dollars again.

Venezuela, is now trading in Euros and ignoring the Dollar as well, and course Hugo Chavez is being called every name in the book, dictator, communist, etc...and it's only a matter of time before the US plans another Coup against Chavez and gets Venezuela back to trading their oil for dollars again!!!

These bullshit reasons like nuclear power and weapons are exactly what BushCo wants people talking about...as long as their is discussion about nuclear in Iran, WMD in Iraq and Chavez being a dictator...the administration will always win with the bullshit talking points (as proven with the invasion of Iraq).

Be the real reason, greed and to get the whole world trading in dollars must never be allowed into debate, because then people would see right through all BushCo's rhetoric, lies and bullshit propaganda!!!!

Still Rove, Cheney are good...they have everyone talking about exactly what they want them to Iran and it's nuclear power.

Get real Iran knows it would be suicidal to ever use nuclear weapons. The US would blow Iran off the face of the earth and then keep their oil... Iran and everyone else know this. now here I am talking about the same bullshit talking points.

http://gaelicstarover.blogspot.com/2006/01/monday-march...

“In essence, Iran is about to commit a far greater ‘offense’ than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro for Iraq's oil exports in the fall of 2000. Beginning in March 2006, the Tehran government has plans to begin competing with New York's NYMEX and London's IPE with respect to international oil trades – using a euro-based international oil-trading mechanism. The proposed Iranian oil bourse signifies that without some sort of US intervention, the euro is going to establish a firm foothold in the international oil trade. Given U.S. debt levels and the stated neoconservative project of U.S. global domination, Tehran's objective constitutes an obvious encroachment on dollar supremacy in the crucial international oil market…"
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 03:32 PM
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16. I hope you're right.
"If Bush talks about it, its a lie and a diversion."

I hope the cabal/junta/cuckoos are just blowing smoke. And they may be.

I don't think they'll let the oil bourse get started, though.
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