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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:45 AM
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Big Spending, Big Government Republicans are not "conservatives" !
This is, in my opinion, the most effective message for the Democrats to put forth in the upcoming elections.

Some have suggested "We can do better". I should hope so!

But, there are few people in America that do not see how much debt we have accumulated in just five short years and they are not just Democrats. Many Republicans are very disappointed in the way this White House has torn down our fiscal house.

If the Democrats are wise, they will push this issue over all others, including the war in Iraq and Katrina. Why? Because this issue is less divisive than all others. It is obvious to Democrats and Republicans alike.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:47 AM
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1. My 3 year old daughter could do better
At least she is not opposed to the idea of sharing sometimes. Republicans want all the money & power for themselves.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:49 AM
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2. Conservative is an oxymoron
Conserve what?

The environment or natural resources?

Gas?

Money?

Human lives?

I got it, conserving their money in their bank accounts and stock portfolios.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:49 AM
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3. I disagree....
There's never been any intellectual meat to conservatism...despite the pompous bleatings of blowhards like Buckley and Rand. It's always been a rationalization of base instincts and an appeal to the lowest common denominator.

There's an unbroken line from the conservaitves who claimed that Al Smith would put the Pope in a throne on the White House lawn to the conservatives claiming Swift Boatters claiming John Kerry deliberately got himself wounded in Viet Nam.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:53 AM
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4. Republicans are already deflated....
This would stick the pin in their last remaining illusion about their Party. This would deflate their numbers at the polls tremendously. A "No" vote for Republicans is as good as a "Yes" vote for Democrats. I think you should look a little more closely.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 12:03 PM
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5. Republicans are the scum of the earth....
I doubt there's a single one of them that has "illusions" about their party.

Look at Rush Limbaugh's listeners. They don't care that the flabby junkie is lying to them; hell, they WANT the flabby junkie to lie to them. The more he lies, the more they love it.

Look at the phony phlap over the King funeral.....they HATE that their fuehrer had to even pretend that he cared about black people. They were delighted that blacks in New Orleans drowned during Katrina. Dreary old Barbra Bush said exactly what was going through their minds.

Do you think they're staying away from the recruiting booths due to "illusions"?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 12:25 PM
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6. Then how do you explain them voting against their own interests?
??
Surely they must be under some illusion that someday they might be rich or somehow it is in their own interests? No doubt, there are many that believe just as you say but many don't have an idea why htey are Repubicans. They voted for Eisenhower 'cause Lincoln won the war...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 12:49 PM
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8. That's not much of a mystery....
The Republican mindset is never about what they do or don't have...it's all about what other people might get.

If there was universal health care other people would be able to go to the doctor whenever they felt like it.

If there is reproductive choice women could have sex without consequences.

If gays have equal rights, there's no one that its safe to look down upon or attack.

They're Republicans because they're pissed off that black people don't have to tip their hats and call them "Mister." They're Republicans because they're pissed off that people can disagree with them in public without consequences. They're Republicans because they can't be openly racist or sexist anymore. (Hence the constant phony uproar about having to be "politically correct.") They're Republicans because they think the rest of the world should kiss their ass constantly.

They're Republicans because they think they should drift through this world in a comfortable faith-based haze, never troubled by inconvenient or uncomfortable reality, and they burn with hatred whenever anything intrudes on that bubble. (They LOVE that Chimpy sees only happy people who have signed loyalty oaths and who ask him hap-hap-happy "questions" like "You sure are doing a good job.")

They're not uncomfortable being peasants...it's more important to them to know where they stand than to actually get anywhere. (They don't care that Chimpy, Cheney and the rest are cowards who stayed out of Viet Nam; that's what great princes are supposed to do.)

That's why they HATE HATE HATE Bill Clinton: Bill Clinton actually rose from a broken home and poverty through education. He DECIDED not to go to Viet Nam and took a stand against the war that required courage. He's comfortable with diversity and acts as if black and brown people are equal to white ones. (And they LOVE that Chimpy does crap like rub black people's heads for luck.) And he married a woman who actually talks back. (You might recall the shitheels were sporting bumper stickers that said "Impeach President Clinton and her husband" even BEFORE Clinton was inaugurated.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 12:38 PM
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7. Eh...I wouldn't go down that road....
There's never been any intellectual meat to conservatism

Honestly, I wish the left was as much in touch with it's own intellectual roots as conservatism is.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 12:51 PM
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9. I would...there's nothing to conservatism but empty rationalization
It's pompous verbiage hung on an empty frame....

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