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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:52 PM
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Here's the first Abramoff/ * pic NYTimes Sunday
WASHINGTON, Feb. 11 — After weeks in which the White House has declined to release pictures of President Bush with Jack Abramoff, the disgraced lobbyist, the first photograph to be published of the two men shows a small, partly obscured image of Mr. Abramoff looking on from the background as Mr. Bush greets a Texas Indian chief in May 2001.

By itself, the picture hardly seems worthy of the White House's efforts to keep it out of the public eye. Mr. Abramoff, a leading Republican fund-raiser who pleaded guilty last month to conspiring to corrupt public officials, is little more than a blurry, bearded figure in the background at a gathering of about two dozen people.

But it provides a window, albeit an opaque one, into Mr. Abramoff's efforts to sell himself to Indian tribes as a man of influence who could open the most secure doors in Washington to them. And it leaves unanswered questions about how Mr. Abramoff and the tribal leader, whom he was trying to sign as a client, gained access to a meeting with the president on the White House grounds that was ostensibly for a group of state legislators who were supporting Mr. Bush's 2001 tax cut plan.

The White House confirmed the authenticity of the photograph. It was provided to The New York Times by the Indian chief, Raul Garza of the Kickapoo tribe of southwest Texas. Mr. Garza, who is under indictment on federal charges of embezzling money from his tribe, said he was eager to demonstrate that he had "nothing to hide" in his dealings with the White House and Mr. Abramoff

More ( hope this works, it is NYT select)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/politics/12lobby.html?_r=1&oref=login
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:53 PM
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1. Here's the pic


Why give the NYT's any more traffic then they deserve?

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:57 PM
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5. How did you grab that?
I am a useless tool on the computer and would like to know how it is done.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:06 PM
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10. right click on photo
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 04:08 PM by notadmblnd
select properties
copy URL
paste into post
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:16 PM
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12. Thanks
God, I'm an idiot.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 05:13 PM
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14. Thanks for the lesson and I did not even ask,
this what I love about the internet, we can all learn from one another.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:46 PM
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15. you're welcome.
I used to write procedures for computer operators (when they were still employeed in america) so I kinda have a knack for making it simple.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:05 PM
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8. Two odd paragraphs, the oddest being that GROVER WAS THERE
...and I don't mean the friken muppet, either!!!

Mr. Garza said he had been offered money from news organizations to reproduce the photograph, which also shows in partial profile Karl Rove, the president's top political adviser, at the May 9, 2001, meeting. The chief did not seek payment from The Times for the photo — and two others in which he appears with Mr. Bush — but insisted without explanation that they be published only in black and white.

...It is not clear how Mr. Abramoff might have gotten Mr. Garza included in the president's meeting. White House records show the meeting was also attended by Grover Norquist, a friend of Mr. Abramoff's who is a leading conservative strategist and president of the group Americans for Tax Reform, which was helping to rally support for Mr. Bush's tax cuts, the issue that was the reason for the meeting. A spokesman for Mr. Norquist declined comment on Mr. Norquist's involvement in the meeting.


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:54 PM
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2. Notice Rove is there too
Rove and Abramoff go way back.

Rove and Bush go way back.

Don't tell me Bush and Abramoff don't go way back.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:56 PM
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4. Ken Ley and Bush go way back, and he denied that too.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:01 PM
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6. Yeah that's still the Rosetta Stone of Bush's honesty and truthfulness.
I'll never forget when he said he didn't know Kenny Boy -- and later that Ken Lay was closer to his democratic predecessor, Ann Richards.

That's the truth meter.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:16 PM
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11. * is a pathological liar
He lies regardless if the situation calls for it or not.

MHO, he is probably a narcissistic sociopath.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:02 PM
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7. Uh-HUH! Once it was Kenny-boy. Now, it's Kenny-WHO?
Same thing for you, too, Jackie-boy.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:18 PM
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13. Tom DeLay has disavowed knowledge
of Jack also...used to be his best friend and now he's just some guy
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:55 PM
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3. oh my!
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 03:58 PM by Botany
:popcorn:

I better see a


Because Scotty said it was only at a Chanukah Party that Jack and George met.

Edit ..... Oh no Scotty Lied ..... :wow:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:06 PM
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9. If THAT is the first one, I suspect it's the least harmful of the bunch.
Because, frankly, it doesn't show a lot. Now if they were standing there arm in arm, or shaking hands, or sitting together or there was a shot of bush clearly talking to or gesturing toward Abramoff, that would be REALLY good. I'll bet the others are more incriminating. Maybe they'll let 'em out slowly in drips and drops, so the full weight of them is spread out and dissipated, a little (they'd hope). It also means that if one comes out, the next one(s) may not be far behind. Slippery slope, dontcha know?
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