Okay, we all know the "Hitler" rule (whomever it's named after)

[zbdent]

where, when someone makes a reference to Hitler/Nazi, real discussion has ended and the person who brought it up has lost.

Is there a way that this can be applied re: Chappaquiddick?

I mean, when a freepturd brings up Chappaquiddick, that means that they have no rational, reasonable point left . . .

Especially when the freeptard starts with it . . .

[Caoimhe]

1. Godwin's Law

I agree we need a counter law.

[Selatius]

3. A "Communist" Law is needed. We could call it Chomsky's Law or something

I dunno, but such a law would pen in the Republicans and force them to address the message rather than shoot the messenger.

[endarkenment]

5. I believe Chomsky is more or less an anarchist

so he would be insulted by the reference.

[Selatius]

8. That hasn't stop them from calling him a communist or anyone else

I agree quite much with what Chomsky has said about the things of life, and I consider myself a moderate libertarian socialist, but it gets difficult to get out these ideas when you get red-baited because it forces me into a position of having to try to demonstrate that I am not a Stalinist, nor do I advocate authoritarian methodology instead of debating the merits of the issue originally discussed.

Anyway, I threw out Chomsky name because it was at the top of my head as far as red-baiting goes.

[trogdor]

17. That would be called a corollary.

The Communist corollary, the Chapaquiddick corollary, the But Clinton corollary, just keep adding them. They all have the same effect on your argument.

[Inland]

2. It means he's exhausted his "Hanoi Jane" references. nt

[Patiod]

4. I think a butclinton rule would be more useful

Hard to talk to a Freep without him eventually starting a sentence with "but Clinton...."

[Caoimhe]

11. I like the that, "butclinton" law! n/t

[RandomKoolzip]

6. My friends invoke "Garcia's Law" with me all the time.

"Garcia's Law" states as follows:

Any statement, action, or thought RandomKoolzip has, no matter how much merit ti contains, is automatically invalidated by the fact that the aforementioned Mr. Koolzip is a fan of the Grateful Dead.

To wit:

Me: "I have discovered a cure for cancer!"

My friends: "Yeah, but you're a Deadhead."

What Mary jo Kopechne is to Ted Kennedy, the Jerry Garcia is to me. :cry:

[phillinweird247]

9. You mean not everybody is a deadhead?

You learn something new every day.

[Caoimhe]

12. Sad to say, today I found out that

Ann Coulter is a deadhead. I think I read it on wikipedia. Makes me wonder how that's possible.

[endarkenment]

7. Godwin's law jumped the shark

(Which by the way has also, in a snake eating its own tail fashion, jumped the shark.)

It was from an earlier more naive usenet era when it was actually unthinkable that comparisons to Nazi Germany and to Hitler were reasonable. 9-11: everything changed.

[DemBones DemBones]

18. I agree -- Godwin's Law is outmoded. nt

[inthebrain]

10. Nothing wrong with comparing them to Hitler or Nazis!!!!

Conservative don't like it becuase it's true. There movement is heavily associated with fascism (not to mention Paul Wyrich empolyed convicted Nazi war criminals to establish The Heritage Foundation) and appealing to Neo Nazi types. As a matter of fact Hitler designed the holocaust after the American purge of the "Native Threat".

Nazi Germany's history is also heavily steeped in American history as well. Calling them out on it, explaining how the Nazis used the same tactics and the reprocussions is perfectly fine.

Conservatives screaming Commie and Chappaquiddic are nothing more than scare tactics. The Chappaquidic thing is a talking point that seems to be making the rounds lately.

[zbdent]

16. The people who scream the loudest about being compared to Nazis

forget that Hitler didn't start out gassing millions of people . . . and the German population was generally unaware of what was happening to their former neighbors . . .

[sendero]

13. That was a rule..

.. that only made sense during the last century. That rule has expired.

[rman]

14. The rule implies 'hitler' will not/can not return

I contest that premise.

[Roland99]

15. Limbaugh was going apeshit on a caller today re: Kennedy

Limpballs said Cheney was an outstanding person and Kennedy was lionized by the left as some sort of demi-god. I turned the channel before Chappaquidick came out of his arse...er....mouth.


BTW, can we create the same Usenet "law" re: the bringing up of "Clinton did it, too"?