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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:39 AM
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Will Paul Hackett switch to the Republican Party?
Since he was treated so shabbily by the Democrats? Will he take his ball and go home? If he loses support of the Party, can he run for anything as a Democrat? Will he change his registration to Republican? If he does, will you still support him? Or is this beyond possibilities?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:41 AM
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1. I think, politically, he's done...
I don't think you'll see him run as a candidate for either party. As far as his own voting preference, I wouldn't be surprised if he changed it to independent.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:43 AM
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2. That assumes, of course, that the Iraq war is just a political ploy
rather than a moral and political issue that overshadows almost everything.

Hackett is not a politician, which was a given, but a man on a mission. I would be greatly surprised if we didn't hear from him again, and pretty quickly.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:45 AM
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3. If his ego is so hurt and he switches to the Republican party
then this whole honesty and tough speaker argument by many DU'ers goes out the window.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:46 PM
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25. I think he should run as an Independent ...
That ought to wake up a few dim wits.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:50 PM
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26. You want DeWine to win.
Such a "hardcore" progressive as you should support Brown - you don't get much more liberal than Brown - and not urge a spoiler third party candidate. But then again, I don't see you acting to support a Democratic majority in Congress anywhere on DU, so why am I not surprised.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:50 AM
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4. We had a bright and shining star.....
And the the party blew it again. A popular candidate, a vet and they fucked it up and pushed him out. They considered him an outsider and treated them as such.

It's bad enough he had to deal with the swiftboating from the Neocons but to get hammered by your own party. It's shameful!!

When do we punish these Dem leaders for screwing up.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:06 AM
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6. Should we do away with primaries?
Apparently that is where we are heading. The boys in Washington will decide for the people. Obviously we are too stupid to make this decision. Looks like the Alito theory again, deal making in Congress among the Dems. We have lost so many elections it might be time to do things different. Naw.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:18 AM
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9. You may be on to something......
Something needs to drastically change...Not sure what the answer is!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:55 AM
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5. will Hillary Clinton eat babies on live TV?
I mean, if she does that, man, will I be really mad at her. It will cause me to reconsider everything she stands for if she proceeds to do something I pulled out of my butt as a possibility.

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Aaaargh Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:45 PM
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20. High-five, Lerkfish!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:12 AM
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7. I was wondering quietly if he'd go Libertarian.
Is there much of a Libertarian presence in Ohio? That might divide the Republican vote.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:00 PM
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14. Hey, I like your thinking!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:14 AM
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8. No, but Joe Lieberman might if Ned Lamont wins primary
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 11:38 AM by IndianaGreen
Or perhaps Schumer and Reid will sabotage Lamont's challenge to Lieberman!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:41 AM
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10. Of course not. Nice flamebait...
:eyes:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:55 AM
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11. I gotta be honest, I don't really trust him anyway
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:02 PM
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16. You and me both!!
!!
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:41 PM
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19. Why, because he says what he means and stands by it?
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:06 PM
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12. That is exactly what he should do...
goddamn DLC :nuke:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:41 PM
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13. I think he might never run for anything again....
but if he were to switch Parties, I see him going third Party before Republican.

TC
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:02 PM
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15. He's an ex-republican with some major repuke stances on other issues
go for it Paul!

Don't let the door slam you on the ass on the way out!
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:46 PM
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21. Yeah, I prefer the party insiders who decide who should be
allowed to run and who shouldn't.

The voters clearly aren't smart enough to decide for themselves.

:sarcasm:
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:46 PM
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22. Great post, shows why we've been in the minority for over a decade
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:30 PM
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27. !
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:12 PM
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17. Actually, I still see him running against mean jean again and winning...
but that's just me.

If he chooses the sour grapes route and quits altogether or switches parties, it will be a long time coming before he's able to get the ground swell he built up in the democratic party.

If all of this honestly was to Paul just about being the "peoples guy" then he should stay with that. It's not about winning the battle it's about winning the war. He should run again against jean.

However, if he allowed his ambitions cloud his judgment and he walks away thinking that the Democratic party didn't support him, then he needs to take a long look at himself.

There are bigger issues at hand. I think Paul should continue trying. Blaming the democratic party for his political woe's isn't going to solve anything.

The reality is: He had lower poll numbers than Brown and he certainly didn't have Browns ability to raise the money needed for a competitive run.



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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:42 PM
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18. When the Dems Tell Dems they have no other Option.. that's when More and
More and more Dems are standing up and saying "Fuck You", more and more are leaving the party - different directions, some go Green or Independent.

something the autocratic defenders/loyalists doesn't quite understand, yet.

i guess the party will have to completely collapse before they will finally get it.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:35 PM
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23. yes, Mr. Hackett got treated very badly. but Sherrod Brown is a strong
progressive with an overall VERY strong progressive voting record all around.

He is supported by PDA (Progressive Democrats of America) and is a strong member of the Progressive Caucus.

Representative Brown is at least as liberal as Sen. Kennedy or Sen. Feingold

courtesy of vote smart - link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=H3141103&type=category&category=Foreign%2BAid%2Band%2BPolicy%2BIssues&go.x=12&go.y=8


2006 In 2006 Citizens for Global Solutions gave Representative Brown a rating of A.

2005 In 2005 Citizens for Global Solutions gave Representative Brown a rating of A.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Council on American-Islamic Relations 100 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA) 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Peace Action 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 84 percent in 2003-2004.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 96 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 50 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Council of La Raza 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 77 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 90 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the National Education Association 89 percent in 2003-2004.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Postal Workers Union 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2004.

2004 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers considered to be the most important in 2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 88 percent of the time.

2004 On the votes that the Service Employees International Union considered to be the most important in 2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Communications Workers of America 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers considered to be the most important in 2003-2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 95 percent in 2004.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2005.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2004.

2004 On the votes that the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance considered to be the most important in 2004, Representative Brown voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Representative Brown supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 94 percent in 2003-2004.

2004 In 2004 National Organization for Women endorsed Representative Brown.

2005 Representative Brown supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 100 percent in 2005.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:38 PM
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24. So what are you saying....
It's ok to treat someone shabbily...because?

Brown is not the issue. The issue is Hackett's treatment. Read the OP again, please.....

You see primary voters should have had the FREEDOM to read what you posted about Mr. Brown, and then they could have decided. Doesn't much matter what Brown's qualifications are at this point....he's the Democrat in the race...and the only option is a Republican.

Soooo...you see, the conversation is about what Democracy truly is...not is Brown a true progressive.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:32 PM
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28. it's a possibility in my mind
I don't really know, but if he did that it wouldn't be entirely incongruous as I see it.

Sherrod Brown, however, would never do that in a million years. My kind of dem. No doubt he's a dem.
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