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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:56 PM
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Letter to Emanuel, Schumer, etc. re: Hackett (need input)
(DU -Please give me your thoughts. I am holding back on this letter for now, for I am literally shaking with rage. Your comments are aprreciated. Thanks.)


Dear Mr. Emanuel,

Are you happy now?

Thanks to your back room behavior, along with your partners in cowardice Mr. Schumer and Mr. Reid, you have taken the BEST hope the Democratic Party has had in years and tossed it to the wayside. To no one’s surprise, you first gave Paul Hackett the big thumbs up, only to work behind the scenes against him to help dry up his fundraising and in turn promote a candidate that first said no, then yes.

Let me tell you a little story. I went to school in Ohio, and lived there for a time after graduation. My in-laws live in southern Ohio, including my brother-in-law. He is a big man, a millwright by trade, and knows little of beltway politics, save for the fact that he takes voting very seriously if there is a candidate he believes in. He respects the flag, and he is sickened by what is happening to this country. When a man like Paul Hackett speaks, my brother-in-law listens. When a veteran looks him straight in the eye and says “I was there”, he listens. Paul Hackett commanded the respect of not only my brother-in-law, but of the men he worked with. The hunters, the guys with the pick-up trucks, and the blue collar lunch pail union guys who work 60 hours a week and nod in approval when a soldier speaks the truth. They would have voted for Paul Hackett. They will not vote for Sherrod Brown. I only wish you could understand why.

So, with the mother of all gift horses dropped into your collective laps in Paul Hackett, what do you do? Do you stand behind a man who isn’t afraid to tell the truth, and who – with NO HELP from any of you –almost turned an absolute guaranteed Republican seat blue? Of course not. You work to cut his legs off, and then ask him to go against his own word and hobble off down to the House, where you and only you have decided his political future should lay.

Instead, he stood true to his word, and let those whom he promised take their turn. What a noble concept, Mr. Emanuel - honesty. With that, Paul has now left the political arena for good, stinging from the deceit that you showered him with at every turn, and knowing that even those within his own party will stick a shiv into anyone who upsets the apple cart.

I am disgusted with my party today, Mr. Emanuel. Disgusted. There are thousands upon thousands of us out here who WAIT for the day that this party will return to its roots, and that it will bring forth candidates who live not for some half-cocked notion of what constitutes electabilty but instead cry for this nation and are not afraid to walk the walk to make it whole. There are liars in The White House, Mr. Emanuel, and the graveyards fill up daily with the young. A man came to you who had seen the dead when they still lived, and all he wanted to do was to be able to tell the American people what he knew. There were tens of thousands of us who wanted to hear, because unlike all of you we are not afraid of this cabal any longer.

Fifty-six veterans are running for Congress this year under the banner of the Democratic Party. They are “the band of brothers”, and they will speak out. How many of them will you try and silence, or try and “re-locate?” How many will quit because you give them no support, financially or politically, because the bombs they may throw land too close for comfort? How many times will your DLC logic stick yet another Republican in the halls of Congress?

Not one more dime to you, Mr. Emanuel, or any of the hopelessly naïve fools who think that running an upstate unknown Ohio Congressperson who will be branded by the right as a “big city liberal” trumps running an Iraqi war veteran who could have galvanized the grass roots and brought a little of that old time religion back into a party that has been sitting on its collective ass for years. Not one more dime to those who will next look to cut Howard Dean off at his knees, throwing him an official Paul Hackett Prosthesis and saying “sorry, all roads lead to the BIG money.” Not one more dime to those who will by whatever means necessary throw progress and truth down a rat hole when it comes to selecting our next Presidential candidate.

I worked for this party for years. No more. I stood in the New Hampshire cold and in the Ohio rain for what I thought would be a turning point in the Democratic party, and I get repaid by an act of political cowardice so brazen it should have a G.O.P seal of approval next to it. No more. Your Democratic party is dead, but mine, you see, is alive. It is alive in the candidacies of all those brave men and women who WILL speak truth to power, and who will not stand down. Those are the people I will be supporting. They may not win, for the cowards are entrenched deeply, but they will get my time, my money, and my support.

Your Democratic Party can, will all due respect, go to hell.


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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:00 PM
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1. Boo-hoo
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 01:00 PM by LynneSin
Brown is about as DLC as Russ Feingold and Paul Wellstone is/was.

Nobody forced Hackett out of the raise - he decided he couldn't handle the pressure.

Paul Hackett is nothing more than a spoiled sport who slapped the words 'grassroots' on his campaign in order to connive people he was some sort of liberal based on one issue only. After reading what he had said about immigration I think I'd rather have Joe Lieberman as my senator than Paul Hackett.

Brown has an amazing record of being pro-choice, pro-environment, anti-war (voted against it in 2002), anti-patriot act (voted against that BOTH TIMES) and even led the fight to defeat CAFTA.

If that's the 'DU Labeled DLCer' I'm stuck with damnit, give me some of that
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Nobody said he is DLC
He can't win.

Can't you understand that?

We got a one-trick pony election coming up.

It's the war, remember? So we have a chance to put up a DEMOCRAT who was ACTUALLY A SOLDIER and I'm supposed to be happy because the guy they booted him for has a great liberal voting record?

Go to southern Ohio, and talk to the people who voted for Hackett in the last special election. Ask them if they'll vote for Sherrod Brown over DeWine.

How much simpler can I make it???
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:20 PM
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8. Great, then why won't Hackett help out where he could make a difference
Sherrod Brown can't win OH-02 and we have a chance of winning the house in 2006. (and when I say 'can't win' I mean that Brown can't win for the simple reason that he lives in a completely different district).

To be honest, even before Hackett dropped out, it was looking very difficult for us to win the senate. We need 6 seats in order to regain the senate PLUS ensure we don't lose seats including those in tight open-seat races in Minnesota and Maryland. Toss in the fact that Ohio is corrupt with the diebold machines it seemed almost impossible for us to get the majority.

But we could win the house. Corruption is much deeper in the house taking out Delay & Cunningham and tainting anyone associated with those too. We only need 15 seats to pick-up; however, many seats once deemed 'uncompetitive' have become more-so because of the corruption. We have a chance to win that and it would be nice to think we could get OH-02 with someone who came close to beating that nutjob Jean Schmidt. Plus, the house leadership is actually more liberal than the senate and with John Murtha sitting in the Armed Force chair seat (if we get the majority) we have a chance to push this issue and fight the senate to get this war ended. Because I honestly believe that if we can get close to 50 senators in the senate and we can get the house to vote to end the war, we might have a chance of pulling in a few moderate republican senators.

So now Hackett wants to take his bucket&pail and go play in his own sandbox - go for it. I want winners in these races, people who will stand-up and fight. Hackett has shown he's a spoiled-sport.

And BTW, just because someone is a soldier doesn't necessarily mean that he/she is the best person for that seat. There is nothing I distrust more than an ex-republican on a 1-issue bent. I want more than just the pretty wrapping and fancy bow on the package - I want the great gift inside. That's what you're getting with Sherrod Brown. You want to end the war? So does he. You hate the Patriot Act - so did he since the inception. Open your eyes and recognize that you've got a great candidate with Brown who not only will satisfy your one-issue you seem so tunneled vision about but will fight for those other issues out there which are just as important!
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. Lynne, please stop saying Hackett won't run in OH-02
He gave his word to the Dems currently running in that primary that he would not re-enter that race. He did so predicated on what he was told re: the Senate race.

When his legs were cut out from under him he stayed true to his word re: OH-02 and instead went back to his law practice.

Far from being a spoiled-sport, it is a mark of honesty that I value.

The person(s) that fucked this whole thing up are Schumer et al.

With regards to Brown, do not assume for a moment that I do not think he is a fine man, and a very good candidate. However, I am adamant in the fact that he can not win in southern Ohio. You HAVE to know the demographics of the region. The ONLY reason Hackett made it close was because of his military background. While not trying to sound condescending, the issues that we value highly (CAFTA, Patriot Act, etc.) - they just won't fly in southern Ohio. They WOULD if they were being delivered by somebody with (shit, I hate this word) "gravitas", but Brown just won't be able to do it. If he wins, he'll need huge voter turnout up north.

Finally, if we do indeed want to make this a referendum on Iraq (and clearly, any other strategy is a losing game) then the "band of brothers" attack is how to make it a winning point for OUR side. That's why I felt Hackett was (and is) the perfect candidate in the political landscape that is Ohio.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. ok, I'm wrong on OH-02 but come on - why are you blaming Shumer et al
Seriously - you don't think Ohio is the only state they've been doing this? At least in Pennsylvania our 'grassroots' candidate (who actually is a true liberal) basically told them to 'fuck off'.

Paul could have said "no" but decided not too. I only blame him for the situation he is in.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. Here's the difference
They came to him.

They ASKED him to run.

Then, when Brown decided he was "in" again (after promising he was "out") they cut Hackett off.

With regards to blaming Schumer et al, the stories are being reported that Schumer, along with Reid and Emanuel, were front and center in convincing some of the anticipated money sources to not contribute.

Now, if your party asked you to run, then decided to drop you after they found a prettier (in their mind) face, what would you do? How could you trust them again? Ever?

If he was running as the outsider, then dropped out, your points are valid.

But he wasn't, and that's what a lot of people don't seeem to understand.

He was the victim of the political back alley bullshit that we all condemn, and decided that he wanted no part of that.

Because of that, and because of the DCCC (and you are correct when you point out that this was not a DLC effort per se, although I think I'd have to argue with you and say that the DLC and DCCC are more than friends) belief that it and only it knows how to win elections (a laughable point, considering their recent efforts) we now have a much lesser chance than we did yesterday of taking back Ohio.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:01 PM
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2. I'd take out the part about Brown being branded as a "big city liberal"
Since when do we allow what the right wing will call our candidates to select them for us? I thought the "liberal is bad" idea was a DLC talking point.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. That is how he is going to be branded
Just like Kucinich was branded as being "wacky."

This is why I am amazed at the selection of Brown - at the expense of not letting the primary process play out.

I am sure that the loser of the primary would have backed the winner to the hilt, but instead all we get is acrimony, and another potential Democratic representaive saying "screw this" when the party that called him to run stabbed him in the back.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. Then we need to fight it
I can't understand how this amazing candidate that has a voting record that would rival such liberals like Russ Feingold or Paul Wellstone is being crucified.

And I take offense at the negative attitude towards us 'big city liberals'. Talk about aiding the enemy. That's the label they've created anytime there's a democrat from a major metropolitian area running for a statewide office. Please, help them some more- go negative right now and spread the word across the state.


And btw, that's BULLSHIT about 'big-city-liberals' not appealling statewide. Ed Rendell got that label back in 2002 when he ran for governor and he creamed his opponents for the win.
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Ciggies and coffee Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #6
40. Looks like the Duopoly wanted to keep Dewine in n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:03 PM
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3. this part is plain silly
Fifty-six veterans are running for Congress this year under the banner of the Democratic Party. They are “the band of brothers”, and they will speak out. How many of them will you try and silence, or try and “re-locate?” How many will quit because you give them no support, financially or politically, because the bombs they may throw land too close for comfort? How many times will your DLC logic stick yet another Republican in the halls of Congress?

Other than that it sounds like every Hackett vs. Brown thread I have read for months. sorry
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Worth noting
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 01:21 PM by MrBenchley
that our "progressive purists" have spent bashing Emanuel because he IS backing one of those veterans against an utterly incompetent and irresponsible "progressive"....
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #9
82. "Utterly incompetent and irresponsible"?
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 10:51 PM by dansolo
I'm curious to know who you are talking about here.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:09 PM
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5. Polling data:

OH-Sen: Brown beats DeWine in DSCC poll
by kos
Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 09:55:55 AM PDT

Hart Research for the DSCC. 2/2-7. MoE unknown (No trend lines.)


Brown 41
Brown (lean) 3
DeWine 38
DeWine (lean) 3

DeWine is weak.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/14/115555/236


"The BEST hope...in years" is hyperbole.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
28. Brown is strong
Hackett was not ready for prime time. If he wants to take his marbles and go home, that's his choice, but I have a feeling he'll rethink it later on.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:19 PM
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7. Emanuel urging Hackett to run for the House is treachery?
What a weird contention.....

The view is truly stunning that far from reality.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Sorry - can't hear you
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. That's all right...I heard you and laughed and laughed
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Can you imagine that
All we need is 15 seats and we have the house.

Let's do all we can do help not let that happen

:sarcasm:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. It's all that e-e-e-evil DLC!
They're creeping through the walls! Aagh!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. What's funny is no DLCers were involved in this evil plot
but I guess here in DU world if you even give a nasty look then it's the evil doings of the DLC at work

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Well exactly....
As I said elsewhere, people here have been screaming for months that they wanted to purge the Democratic party of everybody who didn't hold the same views as Sherrod Brown....

And now they're imagining they got exactly what so many have been calling for, and screaming in rage about how awful it is that they "got" what they wanted.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Hey Sherrod - move to Wilmington and run against Carper
we'd love you here in the First State!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #15
29. Excuse me, Emmanuel is 100% DLC ..
so is Schumer and Reid is backed by DLC.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. That would be Emanuel who urged Hackett to run for the House
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 02:25 PM by MrBenchley
Don't let any facts get in your way....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #30
47.  Hackett says he promised not to run in those races.
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 03:14 PM by Dr Fate
"Similarly, I told party officials that I had given my word to other good Democrats, who will take the fight to the Second District, that I would not run. In reliance on my word they entered the race. I said it. I meant it. I stand by it. At the end of the day, my word is my bond and I will take it to my grave."

Jeeze- I hate to see the party "leadership" squeeze out a vet who speaks his mind.

I dont know about Emanuel, but I prefer that a blunt speaking DEM Vet like Hackett run for the Senate rather than in the house.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. Candidates so "good" they cannot be named.....
Adn they both could use a pretty big plug....since together they've compiled almost $83,000 against Schmidt's $1 million plus.

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/

"I hate to see the party "leadership" squeeze out a vet who speaks his mind."
Geeze, here we've had months and months of cries for a party purge against all who aren't progressive....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #49
53. Your link does not work, your 2nd comment does not apply to me.
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 03:43 PM by Dr Fate
I hate to see the party "leadership" squeeze out a vet who speaks his mind.

That is what I said- I stand by it. I'm not worried about a candidate being "too moderate" or "too left"- I focus on a candidates ability to speak their mind and fight agressive Republican tactics.

I would prefer Hackett be a Senator myself.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. So then tell us, who are these "good Democrats"?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. I guess Hackett is a liar. Probably faked his medals too, right?
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 03:50 PM by Dr Fate
Big Eddie is interviewing Hackett today- perhaps he will share more details.

I was taking Hackett's word for it- perhaps you are correct to suggest he is a liar.

I already told you that I prefer Hackett as a Senator, not a House member.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. If you say so....
I just wonder why, if Hackett thinks they're such good Democrats, and he feels so beholden and all, he wouldn't mention any of their names....

Especially since they're both in such big trouble....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. I guess he is lying, like you suggest.
Probably likes Micheal Moore and "fags" too.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. Hackett sure as shit hates immigrants....
as long as you want to get into that....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. And he was just a lowly "desk puke" in Iraq any way.
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 04:21 PM by Dr Fate
What else can we smear him with today?

You are being dishonest- Hackett said he is for deporting ILLEGAL immigrants-which is the law. He never expressed animosity towards legal immigrants.

But really, Lord help any Democrat who wants to deprive the Libertarian and Republican businessmen of their illegal work force and have them replace those workers with Americans.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #60
61. If you say so....
Now I suggest you go cry about Hackett cutting and running to somebody else.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:24 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. No, you're crying big bucketsfull because Hackett cut and ran....
and you want to blame everybody else....just like Hackett did.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. "Cut and run"- Karl? Is that you?
Good luck in your efforts to convince donors and volunteers that squeezing Hackett out of the Senate race was a good move.

Oh well, at least w/o more Paul Hacketts we can be sure to keep our powder dry!!!

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #65
66. Bucketsfull and bucketsfull....because your boy's a quitter
and has to blame everybody else for his failings....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Good luck convincing the active donor/volunteer base of that, Powderboy.
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 05:02 PM by Dr Fate
99% of the grass-roots does not like this example of back-room politics and does not see a Paul Hackett as the problem at all.

Good luck with your propaganda efforts- and dont use up too much powder!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #68
70. LOL!
Wasn't the propaganda line that Reid and Schumer had convinced that donor base not to give dough to Hackett?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:08 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #71
72. Hackett QUIT...and tried to blame other people
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. Good luck with selling that to donors & volunteers. n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 05:11 PM by Dr Fate
n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #73
74. Hackett QUIT and tried to blame everyone else
"You won't have Paul Hackett to kick around anymore."
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #74
75. Tell it to the non-donors & non-volunteers who may actually believe you.

Good luck with your "blame the cut & run combat Vet" campaign- but it wont work.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #75
77. I'll let Hackett's own self-pitying rant stand on its own....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:37 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:44 PM
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79. Some people seemingly will fall for just about anything....
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:18 PM
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83. nice...
what a comeback! :sarcasm:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:33 PM
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50. Candidates so "good" they cannot be named.....
Adn they both could use a pretty big plug....since together they've compiled almost $83,000 against Schmidt's $1 million plus.

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/

"I hate to see the party "leadership" squeeze out a vet who speaks his mind."
Geeze, here we've had months and months of cries for a party purge against all who aren't progressive....
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:34 PM
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32. Urging Hackett to look like an idiot and a backstabber sure is
First, Emanuel urges Hackett to announce his Senate bid. So, Hackett does. With a lot of fanfare, balloons, and in front of the TV cameras. Then, Emanuel wants Hackett to reverse himself, go back on TV, and tell the cameras "Uh, I changed my mind. You know that whole party I had to announce my Senate candicacy? Um, forget about that. I'm going to instead run against Jean Schmidt again, in 2008."

What self-respecting person would humiliate himself like that?

But wait, it gets better. You see, after Hackett was first given the "go" code to run for the Senate, he abandoned running for the Jean Schmidt seat. He told the other Dems interested in that seat "I'll be running for the Senate; you guys are free to joust for the House seat without having to worry about me being in it and likely winning."

So, Emanuel also wants Hackett to stab the other Dems in the back just like he stabbed Hackett in the back. "We stab your back, you stab their back. What's the problem, Paul? Why aren't you with us on this?"

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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:45 PM
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35. No, no, no, no, no, it's (drum roll).....
"Hackett quit!"

"Hackett can't take it"

"If he won't fight I don't want him"

"This is just politics"

Ain't it amazing all the people I meet
-Jefferson Airplane-

Oh, and thanks. :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:45 PM
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36. I'm sure you can back that up....
Emanuel is in the House and recruits House candidates. Why would he urge anyone to run for the Senate?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:49 PM
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37. That's the story I heard Brent
The games these people play! Or, whose story do you believe. No wonder the dems are in trouble and have been for far to many years.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:36 PM
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17. My input...
Don't send it...

Hackett quit because he knew he was no longer competitive with Brown. The DSCC seeing this backed Brown, the progressive. That is their job. Hackett could have stayed in and fought on had he wished.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:41 PM
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20. it is not worth the fight, dancing bear
I know its not what you want to hear, but the dlc and these rat worm dems are on our side. There is a better fight out there for you. Lets go find it!

peace and low stress,
mdmc
http://www.acme.com/heartmaker/heartmaker.cgi?text1=DU.&text2=com&color=Yellow&r=625952059
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:52 PM
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23. Low stress??
Que????? :) :) :)
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:05 PM
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24. no doubt this is a dark day for progressives


but it is nothing that a good shout out won't cure! Peace... God!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:26 PM
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31. They "got" the purge they wanted....
or at least they imagine they got it...and they don't like it one little bit.

Helluva carnival.....
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:41 PM
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33. Down, the hatch, Mr. Benchley
I would like to say that this is shitty politics, but the proof is in the victory. If we win the house and senate seat, then this was smart politics.

We (I assume) will all be pissed if Jean Schmidt is reelected.

Just think how pissed (us) progressive would have been if the DNC ran someone against Bernie Saunders!

Peace and low stress.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:43 PM
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34. Now why would you be pissed if we got another Democratic Senate seat?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:52 PM
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38. the proof is in the election results
I don't think that there is a Dem that could beat Bernie in VT. If I am correct, then the DNC would have wasted lots of money and time, trying to improve on their ideal.

Bernie is the epitome of these Great United States!

peace and low stress!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:56 PM
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39. So why would you be pissed at a Democratic victory?
"their ideal"
The ideal Democrat is somebody who's not a Democrat? Who's got his own cockamamie failure of a party?

Wow....what a weird contention.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:03 PM
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41. Bernie is the ultimate candidate (except he is not a reg. Dem)
any Dem that the DNC found to run against Bernie, would be...lesser. Even my man man, Howard Dean. There is no better man to be in the US Senate then Bernie Saunders.

Did you see Michael Moore's F911? Remember the black caucus trying to find a (decent) Senator to support their election challenge? Well, Bernie will support them if the GOP steals the 2008 election by violating African American's voting rights.

Mark my words, Bernie Saunders will show the Democratic party how to lead this country!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:08 PM
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44. So why would you be pissed off if there was a Democrat there instead?
"Bernie Saunders will show the Democratic party how to lead this country!"
Like he showed the Vermont Progressive party? Oh, wait......
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:23 PM
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48. Like I said, any Dem would be lesser...unworthy...
Bernie is how we win. Bernie is the future. Triangulation is a failed policy.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:36 PM
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51. If he's not a Democrat, he can fuck himself....
And Bernie couldn't even keep his own crappy little party afloat.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:40 PM
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52. lol
Bernie rules!

Peace and low stress!
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:06 PM
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25. SEND IT DANCINGBEAR!!
Damn that was good.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:08 PM
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26. But at least they showed "spine"- it was just against Hackett/grassroots
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 02:13 PM by Dr Fate
If they could oppose Bush's foreign policy the way they opposed Hackett or the grass-roots filibuster effort we might win an election or two.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:06 PM
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43. Funny. isn't it?
Maybe we can call it "negative" or "inverted" spine.

On second thought - no, it isn't funny at all.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:14 PM
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27. It's perfect.. Please Cc to Howard Dean, Harry Reid, Schumer, Pelosi,
Murtha, mixing recipient list with both DLC insiders and outsiders, (anti-dlc) like Feingold, Byrd and others.

Also, Cc to Paul Hackett.

I'd like to see a letter pleading for Paul to reconsider running as an Independent - We need more good people in the Senate as Independents if the Party won't support them, let the people support them.

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:04 PM
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42. It is perfect
Please ignore the people attacking you. Send it. :hug:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:09 PM
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45. Send it.
You have every right to your opinion, you have every right to express it, you have every right to be pissed. If others don't agree with you it does not matter. After all, this is what it is supposed to be about...oh wait, that is just too pre 2000. Government by the people?

DB :hug:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:11 PM
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46. Send it!
:patriot:

The entrenched incumbents have NO BUSINESS interfering in Local Primaries.
Let the voters decide in the Primary.

Status Quo beltwayers STAY OUT OF LOCAL PRIMARIES!!!
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mikeanike Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:43 PM
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54. don't bother
the senators won't read and your just giving more work to the poor intern that has to read it. Trust me...I know from experience. AND NO FORM LETTERS EVER!!!!!!!!! If you want to make a bigger impact CALL the office, just don't ramble. Say what you have to say, give them any info they need and then get off the phone. If your lucky and the office isn't too busy, you might actually get a phone call from the chief of staff.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:26 PM
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63. “the band of brothers”
The official name is "Veterans for a Secure America"
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:03 PM
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69. Thanks, WesDem
I'll update.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:19 PM
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80. it is a good letter , bye the way
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:55 PM
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67. Send it and add my name, too. nt
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:26 PM
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76. Please Send.
Without any notes, letters or calls, be they as scorching as this, the apparatchiks will think they have carte balcnche to continue to use old style politicing in the back room without fear of upsetting the voting public.

Over the course of the next several years, that is the change that will become the most painful. Old style politics as practiced for centuries or more transparency and accountabilty in the selection process. Sadly, this was just the first round. I admire Hackett and the party "leaders" who did this will at some point have to go back to him to get his endorsement(s). Hackett still has an extremely important role to play.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:30 PM
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81. hey people, don't be stingy with your votes! Rate this post up!
:kick:
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