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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:06 PM
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John Kerry is "a damn Alpha Male" - Dick Cheney is a Chicken Hawk
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 11:23 PM by kerrygoddess
Media Matters Exposes CNN’s Morton on Biased Comments about Cheney and Kerry Hunting
February 14th, 2006 @ 7:32 pm

Media Matters took on CNN’s Bruce Morton’s report on hunting and politics, that aired during yesterday’s Situation Room. Morton commented that President Bush “likes to hunt quail with family and friends” and Vice President Dick Cheney “loves to hunt,” but — using language that echoed that of Cheney during the 2004 campaign — said Sen. John Kerry “spent time posing with guns” during the 2004 presidential campaign, and that “voters probably saw more of him pursuing exotic sports, windsurfing and so on.”

Morton’s jab echoed language Cheney used during the 2004 campaign to attack Kerry as effete and elitist.

Kerry reportedly has been a hunter since the age of 12.

The kicker for me in the Media Matters expose was the part about Cheney’s hunting habits which are vastly different from those of John Kerry. Cheney evidently hunts for the pure purpose of making the kill, one would have to question just what was done with all those birds shot by Cheney…

Also, as was widely reported in 2003, Cheney and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) took part in a controlled bird hunt on a Pennsylvania game reserve, in which farm-raised birds were released from nets right in front of the hunters. According to a December 28, 2003, Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch article, Cheney alone shot at least 70 birds, and the entire 10-person hunting party shot 417 birds.

John Kerry on the other hand is an avid environmentalist who as noted above has been hunting since the age of 12. In a May 2003 Washington Post article profiling Kerry as 2004 presidential contender (John Kerry: Hunter, Dreamer, Realist), the WaPo notes, “John Kerry eats dove. Even better, he shoots them. From behind the stalks of a Southern cornfield, he’ll watch them flutter and dart, and fire.”

The Chicken Hawks spent a lot of time portraying Kerry as anti-gun candidate who simply posed with guns, as Media Matters points out, but in fact, as the May 2003 WaPo article notes, Kerry’s friend Ivan Schlager described him best when he said, “He is a damn alpha male.”



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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:13 PM
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1. Hell yes he is
He has taken the worst the bastards can throw at him all his life, and he's a stronger fighter than ever. That's what I call a man.
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:15 PM
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2. And there ,is the difference.
Kerry likes the sport of hunting. Cheney likes to kill things. What he does is not hunting nor is it a sport.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:25 PM
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4. Yes there is a difference!
In so many ways...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:17 PM
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3. A century ago, Cheney would be hunting tigers in India
while Kerry would be hunting buffalo with Teddy Roosevelt.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:33 PM
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5. That gives some pause for thought.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:38 PM
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7. LOL!
He'd probably go tiger hunting now if the Dr's would let him.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:55 AM
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24. Yeah, but to quote the Beatles,
It would be like this:

"He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
In case of accident he always took his mom
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:38 PM
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6. a servant picks up Kerry's downed birds
Kwrry can't be seen handling yucky things
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:40 PM
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8. Really... you think?
Wrong!

""You clean them. Let them hang. It takes three or four birds to have a meal," said the Massachusetts senator. "You might eat it at a picnic, cold roasted. I love dove."

Dove, quail, duck, deer. Kerry described how to hunt and gut them"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59559-2003May30.html
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:41 PM
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9. Um, wow, what bullshit
See, Kerry is a real hunter, not a fake one like Cheney. Probably his dogs retrieve the birds. That's what "bird dogs" are for.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:00 AM
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15. do you remember the 2004 campaign ?
I seem to recall a photo of,
one of Kerry's servants hauling
the birds off

I'l post a link if I come accross the photo,
but that was more than a year ago
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:11 AM
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16. Should I repeat this
""You clean them. Let them hang. It takes three or four birds to have a meal," said the Massachusetts senator. "You might eat it at a picnic, cold roasted. I love dove."

Dove, quail, duck, deer. Kerry described how to hunt and gut them"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59559-2003May30.html
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:35 AM
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20. For Christ's sake
Kerry is a senator, not a KING. He doesn't have fucking retainers who follow him around wiping his ass after he takes a shit.

Could this be a stupider talking point? :eyes:
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:13 AM
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22. Photo, or no photo, what gives you the OPINION that Kerry has SERVANTS?
Put up or SHUT UP!!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:00 PM
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25. Servants???
Someone else in Kerry's party did collect the birds - Do you think it would have been politically wise for the Senator to be photographed with teh bloody birds? The RW has used the word "servant" to demean Kerry - do you here them use it with anyone else.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:08 AM
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21. Going for the pretenders are ya'?
Carter, Clinton, Kerry; life-long hunters.

Nixon, Reagan, never hunted. Bushes, artistocrats of the yacht, hunting club and phony rancher class.

Ya' been duped pal.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:41 PM
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10. And to continue with the theme of contrasts, Senator Kerry is
a public servant of the dedicated variety, who uses his considerable intelligence to address national and global problems and issues to attempt to elevate the quality of life for citizens, whereas Dick Cheney is a scum-sucking wom who uses his IQ to subvert the letter and spirit of the Constitution.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:45 PM
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11. That too! That too!
Tell it Old Crusoe!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:51 PM
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12. Hey ya there, kerrygoddess! Nice to see you tonight.
John Kerry? He won Ohio. Kerry-Edwards whupped Dubya & Dick in the Buckeye State. The Rethugs in charge of elections from Ken Blackwell on down to those filthy monkeys in Butler County all cheated. They cheated like craven junkies slithering thru a back alley loooking for used needles.

Gore won in 2000, Kerry in 2004. I bet it's fair to say neither of us is voting GOP in 2008!

Keep on keepin' on!
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:57 PM
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13. Hey ya Old Crusoe
You know I agree with you 100%! Me.. I like to Kerry on... ;)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:13 AM
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17. Who needs intelligence?
Bush has shown that any moron can get to be President by just using fearmongering and wedge issues to keep the public divided and confused.

Three more years of this shit, and Bush may get us all killed before then!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:19 AM
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18. You're right on iintelligence and Dubya not having any.
Sad to say, too many U.S. voters like that dumbed-down, regular-guy bullshit and they reject candidates who would actually have done more good -- Adlai Stevenson, Al Gore, John Kerry. I think Gore and Kerry won their races, but the vote was close nationwide.

I really hate the high school-like popularity contest mentality of U.S. elections.

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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:37 AM
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23. Oddly...
I think Kerry is more a regular guy than Bush. Bush certainly led a pampered life and Pappy has gotten him out of everything, from the Guard to jail.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:03 PM
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26. Actually Bush is an EXAMPLE of why you NEED intelligence
to GOVERN.

To quote you,

"Three more years of this sh-t, and Bush may get us all killed before then!"
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:59 PM
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14. That's for sure...Cheney thinks we're all game. n/t
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:53 AM
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19. Sadly I think
you are right. Hunt the poor...
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