Got Him: Cheney Caught Lying During Today's Interview

[MannyGoldstein]

My wife just called an pointed out that Cheney clearly lied during his interview today.

When asked today why Katharine Armstrong was appointed to inform the world that he'd shot a man in the face, he said:

"And so we were confident that Katharine was the right one, especially because she was an eyewitness and she could speak authoritatively on it. She probably knew better than I did what had happened, since I'd only seen one piece of it." (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/15/cheney.transcript/)

But when Katharine Armstrong was asked by the AP, she said that she'd not seen the shooting; she'd only seen Cheney's security detail running toward the scene: "The first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem" (http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_national/article/0,2564,ALBQ_19860_4466287,00.html)

There is no end to the lying from this crowd. No end.

[cliss]

1. There you go. I've got one, also.

It's a blatant lie about where Cheney shot W.

Such a liar. Cheney would lie, even if it were easier to tell the truth.

[Botany]

2. that be a big one

John Dean said his wife caught it too.

I picked it up yesterday ......


this whole thing does not pass the smell test.

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. I think that there is no question on two points: 1) Cheney is a

proven liar, and 2) Ms. Armstrong is now afeared for her own life.

[bmcatt]

3. One more?

Local news just played a couple of clips (the first ones I've seen). Cheney said that he'll never forget the image of the other guy falling backwards after he'd shot him. Um... If he hadn't seen him to begin with, how did he see him falling backwards so clearly?

[Life Long Dem]

4. Eyewitness as in what a great defense. But AP blew that story.

Good one.

[emulatorloo]

5. read this salon piece on Cheney/Armstrong inconsistancies if you get time

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2006/02/15/story/index.html

<snip>

Cheney and his "witness"

Dick Cheney told Fox News today that he wanted ranch owner Katharine Armstrong to break the news that he had shot a fellow hunter in order to ensure that the public got "as accurate a story as possible." It's not clear why the White House Press Office couldn't be trusted to provide an accurate account of the incident. What is clear: Cheney's account differs in several respects from the one Armstrong put out.

<snip>

[0007]

19. Is Pamela Willeford Cheney's new girlfriend?

Perhaps true



edited to add: Pamela Willeford, the U.S. ambassador to Switzerland, another member of the hunting party, told the Dallas Morning News for a story in today's editions that she and Cheney didn't realize Whittington had picked up a bird and caught up with them.

Willeford said she has hunted with Cheney before and would again.

"He's a great shot. He's very safety conscious," she said. "This is something that unfortunately was a bad accident, and when you're with a group like that, he's safe or safer than all the rest of us."

Another link

[No Exit]

31. Why do I get the feeling that somewhere, Lynne Cheney is

smiling a tight, but smug, little smile?

[onenote]

33. her husband was there, so probably not

[0007]

37. How do you know?

[skids]

6. Kayyy & arrR

Good eyes.

[Harper_is_Bush]

7. Not proof of a lie.

I should add you to my examples!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x434948

:think:

[MannyGoldstein]

10. Huh? How?

I'll buy that perhaps Armstrong was lying instead (although, why would she?)- but in what plausible scenario would both of them be telling the truth.

[Harper_is_Bush]

11. Don't confuse a lack of proof of a lie with an assertion of proof of truth

n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

12. My Brain Hurts

I'm drunk and I'm not too bright - I don't understand what you just said.

How about a ferinstance that shows how both could be telling the truth?

[Harper_is_Bush]

13. read it again after you sober up. n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

14. Didn't Think You Could

Nice try, though.

[unblock]

8. technically, she is an eye witness.

she had first hand visual evidence of SOME of the circumstances surrounding the shooting. she was not an eye witness to the actual shooting itself, but nevertheless had eye witness evidence relevant to any investigation of the shooting.

for instance, she saw where the body fell, and she saw if there were any bright orange trees in the vicinity that whittington might have blended into.

[No Exit]

27. I disagree. She may be a witness, but is not an eyewitness.

Referring to a legal or investigatory setting, Armstrong would be a potential witness in that she has some knowledge of the circumstances. But she is NOT an eyewitness, having not seen the actual crime (or "incident", if you prefer). She is neither technically, nor actually, an eyewitness.

I have proved cases in court, and have rebutted others' proof of cases in court.

[UrbScotty]

9. Yeah, but where's the stain on her blue dress?

:eyes:

[LittleClarkie]

15. Sort of like the old joke

Question: How do you know Dick Cheney is lying?

Answer: His lips are moving.

[Andromeda]

36. But only on one side of his mouth.

[leftofthedial]

16. 19 middle eastern terrorists shot the dried-up old repuke in the face

they all died during the incident

15 of them were Saudis, so the dick is planning to bomb Iran.

[karynnj]

22. Did Cheney personally get all the 15 terrorists

Does this make him a war hero in the war on terror?

[leftofthedial]

32. he is a brave, teetotalling, morally upright, wise hero

with gravitas

thank gawdjeezis for the dick

[Swamp Rat]

17. Nope. THEY have taken lying to a new level.

:eyes:

[Disturbed]

18. Pamela Willeford,

the actual witness has not made a statement.

[SpiralHawk]

20. The notorious Swiss Miss is missing

All Points Bulletin. Bring her in for BushCo-style "questioning"

[Swamp Rat]

21. Pamela Willeford grew up in Breckenridge, Texas

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/25683.htm

BIOGRAPHY

Pamela Pitzer Willeford
Ambassador, Switzerland and Liechtenstein
Term of Appointment: 10/27/2003 to present

Pamela Willeford was sworn in as U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein on October 27, 2003.
Ambassador Willeford has devoted her career to developing education policy and promoting community service in Texas. She recently completed 8 years of service on the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, which is charged with overseeing all public post-secondary education in Texas. Under her leadership as Chairman for the past 5 years, the Board has developed a comprehensive higher education plan for the state called “Closing the Gaps by 2015.” The plan is directed at closing education gaps within Texas, as well as between Texas and other U.S. states.

Pamela Willeford's experience in education began over thirty years ago as a teacher in public and private schools in Dallas, Texas. During the 1980’s, she served as a trustee of St. Andrew’s Episcopal School in Austin, Texas, and began the development program for the school. She has also devoted time to many community service projects, including serving as Director of Development and Texas Capitol Rededication Coordinator for the State Preservation Board, and Founding Board and Executive Committee Member of the Texas Book Festival since its inception in 1996.

She has been involved in numerous civic organizations, including The Helping Hand Home for Children, SafePlace Center for Battered Women, Trinity Episcopal School, the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum, and the Junior League of Austin. She was awarded “Volunteer Extraordinaire” by the Junior League of Austin in 2002 and “Woman of Distinction” from the Girl Scouts Lone Star Council in 2003. She has also served as Advisory Committee Chairman for The Laura Bush Foundation for America's Libraries.

Pamela Willeford grew up in Breckenridge, Texas and graduated from the University of Texas at Austin.

edit:



http://bern.usembassy.gov/ambassador.html

Ambassador Pamela Willeford

Pamela Willeford was nominated by President George W. Bush on July 30, 2003, to be United States Ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein. The nomination was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on October 3. She presented her credentials to Switzerland's Federal President on November 25.
Pamela Willeford has devoted her career to developing education policy and promoting community service in Texas. Her experience in education began over thirty years ago as a teacher in public and private schools in Dallas, Texas.
Before coming to Switzerland, Ambassador Willeford served for eight years on the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, which is charged with overseeing all public post-secondary education in Texas. For five years, she was Chairman of the Board, and under her leadership it developed a comprehensive higher education plan for the state.

Ambassador Willeford has also devoted time to many community service projects, including serving as Director of Development for the Texas State Historical Preservation Board. She has been an Executive Committee Member of the Texas Book Festival since its inception in 1996, and served as Advisory Committee Chairman for The Laura Bush Foundation for America's Libraries.
She has been involved in numerous civic organizations, including The Helping Hand Home for Children and the SafePlace Center for Battered Women.
Pamela Willeford grew up in Breckenridge, Texas, and graduated from the University of Texas at Austin. She has two adult children, Emily Ann and Nancy Kathryn, and is married to Austin physician Dr. George Willeford, III.

[No Exit]

29. Golly! If only Dr. George Willeford, III, had been there.

Having a spare doctor couldn't hurt. Gee, I wonder why Pam didn't bring the old ball and chain along on her drinking/hunting trip with Dick?

[onenote]

34. apparently he was there -- hunting with a second group

According to this report the group that was staying at the ranch consisted of Armstrong and her boyfriend, Willeford and her husband, Whittington and his wife, Armstrong's sister and her husband, and Nancy Negley an art philanthropist.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/02/16/america/web.0216timeline.php

[No Exit]

35. So those members of the party who were married had brought their

spouses along.... except for Dick.

[dancingme]

23. Mary Matalin lying too

http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=32104

[No Exit]

30. Boy, I hope Cheney never fooled around with HER.

Because then they'd have to declare him legally blind, and I imagine blind people don't get to go hunting much.

[texpatriot2004]

24. Cheney is a habitual LIAR just like Bush nm

[4_TN_TITANS]

25. I caught that too....

of course there's lots of women hunters, but I thought it odd that she would have been tagging along with "the boys" while they slaughtered birds.

[Sparkly]

26. They're trying to spin their way out of her call -- they did NOT expect it

There is NO way "they" decided Katharine should call the local paper. That's just ridiculous. She thought the story would soon get out anyway, and so unknown to them she called her pal. I believe they were working on a complete coverup.

So now they have to justify her call with lies like, "Oh yeah, we all decided that's how the news should be released," and "She was an eyewitness." Early reports say something different: Initially, she said they did NOT know she was making the call, and she was NOT an eyewitness.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x435766

[Supersedeas]

38. and absolutely no follow-up from the Corporate Media