JDPriestly
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Sun Feb-19-06 03:11 PM
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Poll question: Three Days of the Condor |
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Someone posted a suggestion that we watch that 1975 movie. I did -- twice. It was quite interesting.
One thing I noticed was the prominence of the Twin Towers in New York in the movie and how they were depicted as housing the N.Y. headquarters for the CIA. It made me wonder if the hijackers got the idea to hit those buildings from watching that movie. It also made me wonder whether the CIA actually was housed in the Twin Towers in the '70s.
I don't want to ruin the story for people, but it made me wonder about explanations for the 9/11 attack that I had not considered previously. You know, it wouldn't have taken billions of dollars or involved that many former or current CIA agents to plan and execute that whole operation. The terrorists that executed the plan were pretty much economic failures. If someone had just paid a couple of the terrorists in each plane to commit suicide and the rest merely to hijack the planes without telling them they would be committing suicide, it really wouldn't have cost that much at all. What is more, the whole plot would not have cost that much in our terms to have paid all of them to commit suicide -- or to pay their "spiritual leader" to persuade them to do so. And the logistics of the plan, while impossible for me or probably you, would have been a piece of cake to people with a lot of military or CIA operative experience. Could it be that we did not really go after Bin Laden because he was actually the agent or friend or being manipulated by some element in our own government? I realize this is old hat to many DUers. But for me, it raised questions I had not previously entertained. I never gave the MIHOP folks a second thought. I just dismissed the whole theory as paranoid conspiracy hogwash. But after seeing that movie, I can understand that, while the MIHOP theory is not supported by concrete evidence, it is not a theory that should be dismissed out of hand.
Anyway, it's a great movie to watch -- very well done. Redford even remembers to turn off the stove before leaving his friend's wife's apartment in the knick of time. And the use of visuals and colors is great. The one love scene in the movie is done tastefully and captures a spiritual dimension of sex between strangers in a touching way. You can't beat Dunaway and Redford in this movie.
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Sun Feb-19-06 03:12 PM
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1. Sorry, somehow I got a menu to create a poll, but I have |
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no idea how or why, and I didn't know how to get out of that menu. There is no poll.
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Sun Feb-19-06 03:18 PM
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2. " I suspect he was about to become an embarrassment." I love that |
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movie. I have not seen Three Days of the Condor for years. "Do you think the Condor is an endangered species?" and my favorite "What if they don't print it?"
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Sun Feb-19-06 03:20 PM
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4. yes........."what if they don't print it" |
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I remember that line only too well after all these years...:scared:
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Sun Feb-19-06 03:18 PM
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3. Haven't rented it in awhile and don't remember the twin towers...so |
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I'll have to check it out with that in mind. It was a frigtening, suspenseful moview that has an ending that maybe speaks to the times we live in...
I don't know if I could handle seeing it again though, now that I think about it. It might just push me over the edge.
For those who haven't seen it and can handle the suspense and creepy parallel to what we are living with....it would be a good watch, though.
I am a MIHOP or LIHOP believer... but don't quite get the "implosion" thing. And, there's too much evidence of the Bush/binLaden/Texas connection not to feel that we haven't caught binLaden because there really wasn't something there to catch....if you get my drift...
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Sun Feb-19-06 08:36 PM
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11. to see the explosions you can contact abc news for peter jennings |
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Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 08:38 PM by radio4progressives
memorial tribute - which aired on abc uninterrupted a year ago. the implosions on abc footage is remarkable, for two reasons.
1 - that it was backdrop footage at least on two occasions in this memorial tribute (i think it ran three times) ...
2 - it was the first time i saw this footage on main stream news media, and with such clarity.
In other words, if it was accidently shown on 9/11 - (i may have missed it then) it was never shown again on msm.
the implosion is quite clear and evident. the twin towers had to have had well placed bombs in various points and floors of those towers in advance of 9/11. there are many other facts which should be considered as evidence a conspiracy, (can't pull something like this off with one person, any conspiracy requires two or more individuals to coordinate and execute any plan of action in secret) ..
just ask abc for the peter jennings memorial tribute, that was broadcast after his passing last year, but don't tell them why.
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Sun Feb-19-06 03:37 PM
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5. One of my favorite set of line |
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Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 03:37 PM by wakeme2008
I don't interest myself in WHY I think more often in terms of WHEN Sometimes WHERE But Always, HOW MUCH? - the Assassin from Three Days of the Condor
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Sun Feb-19-06 05:44 PM
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7. I enjoy conspiracy theories as I do mystery stories, but I don't |
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usually subscribe to them. I just find them amusing, so I continue to reserve my thoughts about the MIHOP theory. Before seeing the Condor film, I thought it utterly impossible. The film made me think MIHOP is actually a possibility. I realize that it would have taken only a couple of people in the government to plan, fund and coordinate MIHOP, and the rest, possibly including Bush, etc. would have been kept blissfully ignorant about it. The 9/11 attack wasn't really that complicated to organize when you think about the kind of planning and organization that goes into a full-scale war or even a small but complex covert operation overseas such as rescuing hostages.
The movie also made me wonder whether, basically, the extraordinary military might of our nation has been bought by private or foreign interests. The movie does not state that is or was the case, not even hypothetically. The theory that our military might has been bought and is being used to serve foreign or private interests is one I entertained before seeing this movie. Actually, it is rather obvious that the American people are paying for the Iraq War, but haven't benefited from the considerable spoils of that war in the slightest. And by spoils, I am referring to the cost of supplying our troops as well as the higher price of oil worldwide. Please understand, I do not think that the American people want to wage wars in order to enjoy the spoils, but I just note that the Iraq war has been a bonanza for certain private interests including oil companies and the oil producing nations other than Iraq, some of which own large interests in key international and American corporations.
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Sun Feb-19-06 07:56 PM
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9. How chilling is this ? |
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Turner (Robert Redford): "Do we have plans to invade the Middle East ?"
Higgins (Cliff Robertson): " Are you crazy?"
Turner: " Am I?"
Higgins: "Look, Turner…"
Turner: "Do we have plans?"
Higgins: "No. Absolutely not. We have games. That's all. We play games. What if? How many men? What would it take? Is there a cheaper way to destabilize a régime? That's what we're paid to do."
Turner: "Go on. So Atwood just took the game too seriously. He was really going to do it, wasn't he?”
Higgins: "It was a renegade operation. Atwood knew 54-12 would never authorize it. There was no way, not with the heat on the Company.”
Turner: "What if there hadn't been any heat? Supposing I hadn't stumbled on a plan? Say nobody had?"
Higgins: "Different ball game. The fact is there was nothing wrong with the plan. Oh, the plan was alright. The plan would have worked."
Turner: "Boy, what is it with you people? You think not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth?"
Higgins: "No. It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right? In 10 or 15 years - food, Plutonium. And maybe even sooner. Now what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?
Turner : " Ask them."
Higgins: "Not now - then. Ask them when they're running out. Ask them when there's no heat in their homes and they're cold. Ask them when their engines stop. Ask them when people who've never known hunger start going hungry. Do you want to know something? They won't want us to ask them. They'll just want us to get it for them." http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/013004_in_your_face.html
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Sun Feb-19-06 08:15 PM
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10. Yes..it's really a great movie...someone was trying to tell us "something" |
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in that movie..I would think.
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Sun Feb-19-06 08:54 PM
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12. here's a link to the script |
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Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 08:56 PM by welshTerrier2
http://www.scriptcrawler.net/view.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.un-official.com%2Fthreedaysofcondor.pdfone of my favorite movies ... especially haunting was the scene near the end where a suggestion was made that the NY Times might be under CIA control ... that hits just a little too close to home ...
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