Why are all '06 veteran candidates Democrats?

[CarlSheeler4U]

We can make up huge ground on this issue. Rememeber complacency is the enemy, not the opposition.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[Vickers]

1. Because "College Republican" types don't actually *join* the military

They just *support* the military.



From a safe distance.

[electropop]

2. And without actually spending money to benefit the troops...

As fiscal conservatives, they don't believe in wasting money on such luxuries as body armor, medical care or salaries. Money is better spent on lining their own pockets.

[CarlSheeler4U]

6. How do we take this msg and craft it to the public?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[electropop]

13. You need sound bites:

"Republicans 'support our troops' by sending them into battle unprotected."

"Support our troops: bring them home."

"Republicans send other people's kids to war. Democrats go into battle to protect America."

"We've been at war for 3 years. Why are so many troops and vehicles still un-armored? Is this how Republicans support our troops?"

"War should not be waged for Halliburton. It is not a game or an investment. If we go to war with a made-up enemy, we endanger our national security. We cannot afford to waste our troops' lives on a sham war, when we need them to protect us from real threats elsewhere."

[CarlSheeler4U]

14. Would you like a job as my Blog CEO? Excellent work.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[electropop]

16. Why thank you,

I might be interested in helping in some way. I'm currently advising a House candidate in a Southwestern state (who is looking very good to win). I'm not a pro (yet) but maybe eventually... :-) BTW, I'm in DC.

[CarlSheeler4U]

18. Then as the poor populist candidate - can you help me?

Let's do the Paul Wellstone Hillsman --- Joe Trippi - Howard Dean thing with the net and make it BUZZ!!!!!

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

btw I'll overlook you're in DC. ; p

[electropop]

19. I'll be happy to help as I can...

My strength is in writing pithy prose. I'm not a Joe Trippi expert in 'net organizing, though I do run a couple of small web-based businesses. I can do some web design and some writing (including speech writing) if that's helpful.

BTW, you're gonna need friends in DC when you get here. Who's going to pour champagne over your head otherwise? ;-)

Private mail me for contact info.

[CarlSheeler4U]

22. I'd love you but I'm a cyber weenie w/two left feet

Thanks for the offer.

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Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

can you send something in inbox

[CarlSheeler4U]

5. Semper fi' as I spit my coffee across the floor!!!

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Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[opihimoimoi]

3. More and more people out there are sick & tired of the Repubs

and their sorry excuses of Leadership and fake agendas, their lack of Vision, whats BEST for America and ALL of its Citizens.

The Present Leadership clearly exemplafies SelfInterest and Cronyism

[CarlSheeler4U]

8. Military leaders infrequently are complacent. They're self directed

Isn't it time we focus on these assets and not dwell on what the GOP ought to be doing? Losing a game and whining about it is different than getting meaner, tougher and stronger..... and smarter.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[opihimoimoi]

20. Is this post yours...? Is this YOU?? running for Senate? Or someone hired

to do the web for you?

I wish to help

Opi

Come, we think of ways to victory....

[CarlSheeler4U]

23. Nope This is Sheeler 100% Red Blooded Guy doing his best

All the help you can offer......

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[opihimoimoi]

30. Politics is perception..get the voters to like you and you will get better

odds.

What is your situation...?

Running against whom?

Incombent?

What is your agenda/goal/focus/reason for running?

How many peeps in your campaign?

Opi

[slide to the left]

4. because

Those who join the military believe they are gihting for freedom. They are true patriots, unlike those who would rather use the young men and women's patriotism to their own advantage.

My bother left for his first tour today, a year in Korea. I don't agree with any of his politics, but he does think he is doing the right thing. We both want the same thing, peace, we just think there are different ways to get it.

[CarlSheeler4U]

11. Boot camp and being part of a green brotherhood teaches us

... to trust ourselves above all others. It takes decompression to understand that orders and wisdom are not always the same thing.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[newyawker99]

21. Hi slide to the left!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[CarlSheeler4U]

24. Thanks

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Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[TygrBright]

7. They aren't. GOPpie veterans are running in several states

Check it out here:

http://www.cqpolitics.com/2006/02/military_veteran_candidates_in.html

helpfully,
Bright

[CarlSheeler4U]

9. Excellent find. Leadership and ferocity of convictions

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[liberaliraqvet26]

25. Only one is an Iraq vet...

The quack in texas

[CarlSheeler4U]

26. Argghhh

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[DeadManInc]

10. I think they are pissed off about getting sent to

a sham of a war. They also did not have the equipment they needed.

[CarlSheeler4U]

12. They volunteered and expected truth and leadership as they should

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/19/1730/42036

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

Be a patriot and pass the bulletin board link to every person you know and every blog you can and ask the same from them, too.

[loyalsister]

15. I think there was a recruiting effort

to reform the "weak on defense" image and stimulate the national G spot for the '06 elections. No brainer.

[CarlSheeler4U]

17. Let me let you in on an interesting observation

I'm a Marine vet. When I marched in DC against the Iraq War, there were a disproportionate number of war veterans there. Why? Nobody who serves glamorizes war. We don't show blown apart body parts for this war, because that is the messy reality and the public can't handle the truthful gore. True leaders know war is a last resort means when diplomacy is all but exhausted. If we wanted Hussein out, a drone - hellfire would have done the job.

Carl
Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com

[Greeby]

27. Glad you brought this up, Carl

Gives me a chance to post this list again

http://www.electoral-vote.com/2004/info/military-service.html

Democrats

David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, etc
Jimmy Carter: Lt. Commander in the Navy 1946-53
Wesley Clark: Army 1966-2000, Vietnam, Silver star, purple heart
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver/Bronze stars, Vietnam
Bill Clinton: Did not serve
Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze star
Michael Dukakis: Army 1955-57
John Edwards: Did not serve
Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71
John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs; Air Medal w/18 Clusters
Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam as journalist
Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74
Howell Heflin: Silver star
Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze star
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII
Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53
Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver/Bronze stars, purple hearts
Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII
Jim McDermott: Navy 1968-70
George McGovern: Silver star & DFC during WWII
Zell Miller: Marine Corps, 1953-56
Walter Mondale: Army 1951-53
Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver star, etc
Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze star, Korea
Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-79; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
Chuck Robb: U.S. Marine Corps, 1961-70, Vietnam
Pete stark: Air Force 1955-57
Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart
Republicans

Spencer Abraham: Did not serve
Eliot Abrams: Did not serve
Richard Armitage: Navy, three tours in Vietnam
John Ashcroft: Did not serve
Roy Blunt: Did not serve
Michael Bloomberg: Did not serve
George H.W. Bush: Youngest Navy pilot in WW II; awarded DFC
George W. Bush: Texas Air Nat. Guard; didn't take physical; suspended from flying
Jeb Bush: Did not serve
Saxby Chambliss: Did not serve. Attacked Cleland's patriotism
Dick Cheney: Did not serve
Christopher Cox: Did not serve
Tom DeLay: Did not serve
Bob Dole: Army in WWII, Bronze star, two purple hearts
Bob Dornan: Enlisted after fighting was over in Korea
John Engler: Did not serve
Douglas Feith: Did not serve
Gerald Ford: Lt. Commander, Navy in WWII
Bill Frist: Did not serve
Newt Gingrich: Did not serve
Rudy Giuliani: Did not serve
Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer
Phil Gramm: Did not serve
Chuck Hagel: Served in Vietnam, two Bronze stars and purple heart
Dennis Hastert: Did not serve
Tim Hutchison: Did not serve
Jack Kemp: Did not serve. "Knee problem," continued in NFL for 8 years
Jon Kyl: Did not serve
Trent Lott: Did not serve
Richard Lugar: Intelligence officer in Navy 1957-60
John McCain: POW in Vietnam, Legion of Merit, Silver star, DFC, many more
Mitch McConnell: Did not serve
John McHugh: Did not serve
George Pataki: Did not serve
Richard Perle: Did not serve
Colin Powell: 35 years in Army, 4-star general
Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard
Ronald Reagan: Served in WWII making movies
Tom Ridge: Army in Vietnam, Bronze star
Dana Rohrabacher: Did not serve
Karl Rove: Did not serve
Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor
Rick Santorum: Did not serve
Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base
Richard Shelby: Did not serve
JC Watts: Did not serve
Vin Weber: Did not serve
Paul Wolfowitz: Did not serve

Pundits, Preachers, and Judges

Bill Bennett: Did not serve
Wolf Blitzer: Did not serve
Pat Buchanan: Did not serve
William Buckley: Army in WWII
Charlie Daniels: Did not serve
Lou Dobbs: Did not serve
Paul Gigot: Did not serve
Sean Hannity: Did not serve
Bill Kristol: Did not serve
Jim Lehrer: U.S. Marine Corps
Rush Limbaugh: Did not serve
Chris Matthews: Did not serve
Michael Medved: Did not serve
Ted Nugent: Did not serve
Bill O'Reilly: Did not serve
Dan Rather: Army Reserve
Ralph Reed: Did not serve
Michael Savage: Did not serve
Antonin Scalia: Did not serve
Kenneth Starr: Did not serve
Clarence Thomas: Did not serve
John Wayne: Did not serve
George Will: Did not serve

:evilgrin:

[JustDoIt]

29. Lehrer?

Why is he on that list? He always seemed liberal to me

[Doctor_J]

28. Wingers applaud wars, they don't fight them

and then of course they mock the people who DO fight them.

[Renegade Six]

31. Maybe they are waking up.

Ive been out less than three months (after seven years), and since 2000 most people were either drinking the kool-aid that is Shrub or were IMO too scared to not only disagree with the CINC but to be outed as a *gasp* liberal because the military's favorite news network, Fox, paints libs as anti-military wimps.

I spent a year in year in Iraq constantly saying "This wouldnt happen if Gore was president." It didnt make my life easier with my various bosses but it was the truth and it made me feel like I was giving a voice to all those that felt they couldnt be political surrounded on one side by repubs who act if politics was a football game(support your team no matter what) and evangelical christians who believed Bush was sent by God and insurgents who tried to harm us (With good reason, i might add. We treated Iraqi civilian like dirt and we were reaping what we sow.)

Flash forward from our deployment to the 2004 election, we had several officers in my unit telling they're soldiers that if they voted for Kerry we would be surrendering to the terrorists within months. Unfortunately there are many kids in the Army who have no knowledge of anything really, who dont read, who dont go out of their way to learn facts and are rather impressionable. Maybe if there were enough people like me speaking out, the impressionable ones would hear something other than RNC talking points all day long. Kerry would have been good for the military, but like people in the red states alot of soldiers will vote against their own self-interests out of ignorance.

People like me, we get kicked out of the Army for being mentally ill. Of course the majority of the time they decide its pre-existing and the soldier ends up with no benefits. Seven years in the Army with no problems, and I was bi-polar before I joined? The things you learn when you finally get enough rank to actually start making a difference.

/rant off/