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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:49 AM
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What should Oprah do to make DUers happy?
Seriously, specifically what do you think she should do, has the power to do?
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:52 AM
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1. Use her position to further the GREATER cause.
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 12:54 AM by NoSheep
not just give the actors and the individuals she meets a voice, but really break the mold and carve a greater path. Speak the larger truth. Subvert the dominant paradigm.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:54 AM
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4. Like what?
Give some examples.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:12 AM
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22. AH! I have watched her since her beginning. And I remember her
sensitivity and integrity that set her apart from anyone who came before her and after her in this "talk show" genre she is in. She excels AND she is RICH now.
We have all wished we could have more TRUTH in the media about what is going on in this corrupt administration.
Let's see her confront Rove, Condi, Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie, Brownie... Let's see her interview Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame...If they don't want to come on her show, let's see her look into the camera and ask them WHY!

Richard Clark. Has she interviewed Richard Clark? (I know Terry Gross did)
I think she has the position, respect and balance to bring so much of this information to a population who can't seem to see beyond the entrance to the Wal-Mart.

Oprah has done so much for individuals. I say bring on the Oprah voice to reveal the obvious, larger issues that are plaguing our nation. Turn on the larger ignorant.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:42 PM
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65. You want her to become political; that's not her thing
What other entertainers/celebrities are you expecting that of? My guess is: NO ONE.

She does a tremendous amount of good in this world, but it's not on the political plane. I think you have to let people be who they are, be the BEST version of who they are by nature and in Oprah's case, as I said: it ain't political.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:43 PM
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67. She's not an activist.
But hasn't she done things for causes before?
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Ciggies and coffee Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:23 PM
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91. You mean her brand?
Her name is in the same league as the major fast food chain or detergent company. Probably uses the same flacks. You're right, she does have tens of millions who worship the ground she walks on.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:53 AM
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2. personally, i think Oprah should shut up now.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:53 AM
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3. She made this DUer very happy today!
I just wish more had seen this show.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x478672

She let the nation know that Katrina survivors still need help and that the administration has failed them.

It was a great show.

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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:55 AM
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5. That's good to know. Go OP.
:D
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:57 AM
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11. It was about the Katrina Stories the MSM hasn't told.
It was a great show and I wish someone had recorded it so that the video was available to send to others.

Her show today was the best show I have seen in years. It was real and it asked the question "Where is the leadership?"

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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:19 AM
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26. I want to hear her voice speaking beyond the stage she and her guests
are on.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:25 AM
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27. I want her to do more myself.
But the show today was awesome. I know, I live in the nightmare Katrina left and she definitely opened a lot of eyes today.

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:56 AM
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10. HUGE HUGS To MERH!
How is YOUR housing situation progressing?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:59 AM
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12. Living in my FEMAnsion
and making it day to day.

I'm doing a lot better than others, like the poor ladies in Oprah's show today that had to use a bucket for a toilet or the ones still living in tents.

It's good to see you benburch! :hug: :loveya:

Thanks for the hugs, they are so needed! :hug:

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:01 AM
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14. Are you going to get ANY assistance actually rebuilding your home?
And if so, WHEN?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:03 AM
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16. I wish I knew when.
I have to sue my insurance company and that will take time.

The monies available require dealing with so much red tape, and they really aren't available yet anyway, so many hoops, so many false hopes, so much to do.

But, I haven't and won't give up!

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:19 AM
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39. merh, I sent you a PM
Have you had a chance to read it yet?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:55 AM
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40. check your pmail!
thanks arnheim. :hug: :hug:

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:59 PM
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54. You're welcome
But you need to take me up on the offer!

:hug: to merh. :hug: to the Gulf Coast.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:08 PM
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43. The federal government must fix this.
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 12:19 PM by spotbird
The president must lead, and Oprah can rally her "constituency" to put the pressure necessary to get that done. She could ask her viewers to call their representatives, senators, and the president often and demand that the Gulf not be abandoned. She could have reminders at the start of her show, "This week is call your representative week, next week is call your senator week...." with instructions on how to contact them. She could tell her viewers to remind their federal elected officials that their actions on this, and support for homeland US emergency management generally, will impact their vote on election day. When election day she should remind her viewers to check their rep's vote on this. What is homeland security if we won't take care of our own?

Yesterday she said there is "plenty of blame to go around." New Orleans, Mississippi and even the state of Louisiana are all flat broke. Whatever responsibility the locals had in exacerbating the crisis immediately after Katrina (the extent of which is very debatable) it is impossible for them to rebuild the area today.

Her show yesterday was informative for many I'm sure and it was an important start. I shouldn't define her by her transgression through her support for Bush in 2000 when it's clear her heart is in the right place today. However, she must come to understand that her efforts to rebuild a house here or there, and even generous personal contributions aren't enough. The private sector can't cure all ills, there is a role for the federal government in the maintenance of civil order. If she wants to help now, she'll have to play a role in getting the government to fulfill that obligation.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:18 PM
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59. I couldn't agree with you more.
But yesterday's show was a start and something I have never seen her do before.

She questioned the administration, she asked "Where is the leadership?"

It's a step forward, imho, and that is better than standing still or stepping backward.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:18 PM
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45. I saw the show too..
And it made me very sad and it also made me very angry.....

To have Americans living in areas that look like war zones and in squalor on US soil is just simply unacceptable.

* government has abandoned tax paying citizens and states and has given the Gulf Coast paltry sums of tax payer money for rebuilding.

All of those trailers, sitting around rotting....

Americans should be up in arms over this travesty..

Yes, you are right it was a good show!!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:42 PM
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61. CNN's AC is doing a story on her tonight
She built an entire neighborbood with 65 new homes because she could. :hug:

The clip they showed with Anderson Cooper included her snarking about our government's failed leadership !
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:55 AM
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6. Have Mark Crispin Miller as a guest

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:55 AM
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7. Why does she need to do anything at all?
Why can't she just be who she is?

All these expectations of people. I've never understood that.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:26 PM
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47. This is the right question....
It bothers me that everyone expects Oprah to be the one....to impact change....
I think she has done many good things....

But are we expecting her to do things because, she is black and successful? And she owes the country something?

Would we expect the same thing from other successful Billionaires. I have never seen this question asked of bad hair Donald Trump. Would people ask of him what they are asking of Oprah? This man builds multi-billion dollar hotels, are you telling me he couldn't get the money and the materials together to literally rebuild homes and businesses in the Gulf?

I don't think it's a fair expectation to demand that she does something and not have the same expectations of others?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:23 PM
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49. Speaking for myself
Her obligation to act has nothing to do with her race; it has to do with correcting a wrong and acting on stated convictions. She tacitly supported Bush in 2000, she overtly supported Arnie; her gushing over Condi lent support to Bush more recently. These are political acts. Particularly her 2000 support of Bush impacted the country negatively, as is seen failure of the government to act responsibly in the Katrina aftermath.

Oprah has expressed concern and distress over the situation in Mississippi and Louisiana. She has interjected herself into the situation; no one forced it on her. The only possible hope for the Gulf is through federal intervention. If she wants to save the Gulf she must use her celebrity to pressure the government to take aggressive measures to rebuild. Promoting private sector action may make her feel good, but it isn’t going to cause large scale rebuilding. The reality is that even the suggestion that there is a private solution a distraction from what must happen. The private sector should act, no doubt about it, but it won't happen throug them.

If she had stayed out of it these questions wouldn't’t be raised.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:15 PM
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57. You are completely unreasonable....
"The reality is that even the suggestion that there is a private solution a distraction from what must happen."

The reality is that it will take a massive effort by both the private and public sector. Oprah can have a direct effect via private. She cannot thru public. Compare the milllions of dollars she can raise by previaling on people's nautral compassion vs. the time and effort necessary to formulate and continue a movement.

Even with her influnce and stage, I doubt she could prod the government to the action necessary. But she can raise millions for people that need it now.

My favorite is that even suggesting alternatives is bad because it distracts from the central theme.

"If she had stayed out of it these questions wouldn't’t be raised"

Now she should just shut her mouth. Lovely.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:22 PM
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62. Why do you think she should "shut her mouth?"
Someone else will have to defend that position since it isn't what I said or think.

Although it's doubtful that you didn't understand my point, I'll restate for clarity:

As long as the public thinks the Oprah's Angles or even the political hacks at the Red Cross are addressing the problem sufficiently there will be no pressure on public officials to demand change. Private money on the scale of what's necessary isn't going to be spent unless or until there is an infrastructure in place. Charity is not a solution that will save the Gulf, it's that simple.

Charity has it's place, it is kind, compassionate and necessary. It will help those who remain survive a little longer, but it is not the long term solution.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:50 PM
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78. Here's your quote...
"If she had stayed out of it these questions wouldn't’t be raised"

I never said she should shut her mouth, it is your quote implies exactly that if she wasn't going to handle the situation as you wanted it handled.

"Although it's doubtful that you didn't understand my point"

Your point isn't that govewrnment help is the key to rebuilding which I think everyone would agree with.

Your point seems to be endeavoring or even suggesting them (as you put it in another post) in private sector actions at all is a waste of time and energy when we should be soliciting the government. People can do both. You don't seem to understand that.

Here's another idea, since you feel so strongly about it use DU to promote and help a mass letter writing campaign to Congress.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:10 PM
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81. Taken out of context
One can say you agree with Hitler because Hitler once said, "I like toast" and you also have said, "I like toast." Is it true you and Hitler agreed? Yes, but it's likely doesn't give any information about your political views.

If you read the entire thread, including the question my response addressed, you'll find a different meaning than the one you pretend to believe I meant. Down thread I also laud charitable endeavors, but address that they won't save the Gulf. You chose to ignore that context also. What's your argument, that words can be distorted?

Either way, you get the last word.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:50 PM
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68. You're wrong: she didn't support Bush
And it's a crying shame for you to promote such a lie. Frankly, I'd have preferred she not have either of the candidates on, but she had b oth on -- that's HARDLY supporting Bush. And yes, she had Maria Shriver, with whom she has been friends for decades (they used to work together), on with Arnold when he was running for Gov -- another not wonderful show IMO.

But she is NOT solely responsible for either Bush's win nor Arnold's win, and it's damn unfair -- preposterous, really -- for you to suggest that, and then go on to suggest that among the influences for Bush and Schwarzenneger's wins that she and she alone needs to atone.

IOW, let me be perfectly clear: what a fucked up idea.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:21 AM
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93. Yeah, what you said. I completely agree.
:toast:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:42 PM
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51. Ding! Ding!
I only started this thread in response to many of the comments in the other thread. How can you so dislike someone for not meeting your expectations as a savior?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:56 AM
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8. She should keep doing good, but not so be so fucking self-serving about it
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:52 PM
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69. Self-serving in what way?
This ought to be good....

I'm all ears.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:56 AM
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9. Tell the American people to vote this administration out.
And put them on trial for treason.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:04 AM
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17. So, given the format of her show
and the topics that she typically covers, she should just one day go on the air and tell people to overthrow the government?
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:09 AM
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19. It works for me...but I don't usually watch her program.
I did catch a part of it on Katrina today, because of a DUer's post. It could work.
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:00 AM
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13. I thought Oprah had a very good show today
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 01:01 AM by hopeisaplace
I like Oprah. I believe she is a good person who cares about
others. She gives a lot. Perhaps she could do a story on those without
health insurance and how it affects/destroys their lives.


edit: spelling
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:02 AM
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15. Use her money and media power to speak truth to power and take this
administration to task for their fiscal irresponsibility, their human rights and civil rights abuses and for all around being pricks.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:09 AM
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18. Right -- get Bush on the couch some fine day
I know -- it's a fantasy, but it's a good fantasy.

Hekate
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:13 AM
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23. AAAAA-men!
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:56 PM
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70. And who else are you expecting to make a major change like that?
Really. Is it just Oprah (and if so, why), or are there other celebrities for whom you have the same high expectations: that they just drop everything, and do what you prefer them to do?

Why don't YOU become rich and famous and then you can do what you think others should do, owe YOU to do?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:09 AM
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20. Have Shrub back on and make HIM apologize
"You lied to us, it was all a lie, wasn't it?"
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:11 AM
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21. Have on David Ray Griffin.
And Mark Crispin Miller too.

(Griffin on Malloy tomorrow!)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:32 AM
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42. Oh, God! Isn't he the one who espouses the theory that our lovely
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 11:45 AM by calimary
government knew about 9/11 in advance and either let it happen without doing squat to stop it, or MADE it happen?

A theory which, in my opinion - the more I see, and the longer I stay awake and pay attention - seems more plausible every day.

YES she should have both those guys on. She should have Richard Clarke on. She should have John Dean on. She should have Howard Dean on. She should have Al Gore back. She should do a show on black box voting and voter fraud. She should have that magnificent firebrand and thorn in conservatives' side Maxine Waters on. She should have JOHN CONYERS on. She should have David "Blinded by the Right" Brock on. She should do a show on the PNAC, exposing its existence and its nefarious goals to her mass audience (most of whom - I'd bet hard cash - have never heard of the PNAC and its "New Pearl Harbor" wetdreams). She should have John Edwards on. She should start having more Democrats and liberals on. She should start showcasing the difference between liberal thinking and CONservative thinking, and what it means to the average Jack and Jill. Showcasing more liberals and progressives would go HUGELY far in beating back the serious demonization of liberal/progressive thought by scheming, manipulative newt gingrich types - who've set our movement back so far by spreading colossal litter pans filled with lies and distortions and derisions from coast to coast, for YEARS, about who and what we are. Even ONE show debunking that would be a huge public service. She should have George Lakoff on, to help her vast audience start to understand the framing of issues and how the bad guys manipulate their thinking and prey on their fears. She should get that ass Dr. Phil or somebody else to start dissecting the psychological damage our government has done to its people by exploiting their fears. She should have Barbara Boxer on. She should have Ben of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream (and liberal activist), and Cindy Sheehan and the leaders of MoveOn on her show - so people can get to know them without having a "fair and balanced" panel filled mostly with republi-CONS and CONservatives who are rude and almost always succeed in interrupting and shouting these folks down, impeding their message from getting out there and being heard. She could be a force for change and redemption toward all of that. She could be a force for the enlightenment and broader education of her staggeringly large audience - many of whom vote.

That's just for starters.
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:14 AM
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24. GIVE US ALL A FREE CAR !!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:24 AM
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41. I already have a car
But a new microwave would be nice!
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:18 AM
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25. Change her name to Dupe-rah and apologize for screwing up the day-time...
TV talk format with celebrities and Chippendale dancers and inane crap. Before her there was Donahue and that was plenty.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:29 AM
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29. Donahue also had Chippendales
I'm sorry he also made you unhappy.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:41 AM
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31. Yes he did. As a result of...? He's said as much in interviews...
...he's a gentleman, so he doesn't name names but it was her and then Geraldo that ruined the format. Crap sells. What can I say?

"...and on tomorrow's show TOM CRUISE!!!!!!!!!!!" Whoop-de-do...
I'm feeling empowered all of a sudden.

You'll just have to excuse me, I have no respect whatsoever for Dupe-rah.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:01 PM
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71. You have no respect for her because you don't watch her
If you did -- with any real fairness or objectivity (both of which I realize might be a stretch for you) -- you couldn't say such a thing. I frankly rather doubt she EVER had any Chippendale dancers on, which is not to say that there aren't shows of hers which aren't terribly substantive. But there are plenty which are.

And Donahue's shows weren't all that political, either, btw.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:48 PM
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87. I think I get it...
...I'm not 'fair or objective' because I don't agree with you about your TV friend Oprah.
I assume if I did agree with you I would be 'fair or objective'.
Ah, the authoritarian personality type rears it's ugly head...
It seems the way you set this difference of opinion up is that I have to agree with you or I'm not being fair or objective. It reminds a bit of the way they do things in the right wing echo chamber.
No biggie. You're welcome to like Oprah all you want. And I got news for you, I'm welcome not to. Welcome to the free world...
And, bee tee double you, I didn't say Donahue's shows were political. I prefer to do my own opining rather than have you do it for me, thank you very much.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:26 AM
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28. Retire.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:34 AM
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30. She can start by...
Firing that hack Dr. Phil...
:evilgrin:
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:02 PM
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72. He's been gone for years
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:10 AM
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32. Have Al Gore on her show and
start a whole new environmental movement.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:45 PM
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52. I totally agree. n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:45 AM
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33. who? n/t
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:49 AM
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Some Duers are clueless
I realize that Oprah can be annoying, but she's done a tremendous amount of good, both through her program and her charity network.

In addition to the stellar work she's done keeping a focus on the Katrina aftermath, she's done great shows on topics like Darfur, sexual slavery, race relations, etc.

Reading some of responses on this thread makes me think we are never going to shake the image of liberals as elitist snobs.

From Slate's article on the most generous rich Americans:"Oprah Winfrey—$51.8 million to the Oprah Winfrey Foundation, Oprah's Angel Network, and the Oprah Winfrey Operating Foundation. Winfrey, 52, chairman of Harpo, a multimedia entertainment company, and host of The Oprah Winfrey Show, donated $35.9 million to the Oprah Winfrey Foundation in Chicago, which supports education as well as programs for women and children in the United States and abroad. She also gave $11 million to the Oprah Winfrey Operating Foundation in Chicago. Winfrey's operating foundation supports a leadership academy for girls in South Africa that is scheduled to open in January 2007. Winfrey gave an additional $3.5 million—profits from the sale of the 20th-anniversary DVD collection of her television show—to Oprah's Angel Network, a nonprofit organization Winfrey established in 1998 to encourage her fans and other celebrities to donate to charity. Winfrey subsidizes the organization's administration costs so she can assure donors that all their money goes to charitable causes selected by her foundation. Winfrey donated an additional $1.3 million in 2005 to other nonprofit groups. "
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:09 PM
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73. And there's plenty more that she does as well
You've made a good start:

I realize that Oprah can be annoying, but she's done a tremendous amount of good, both through her program and her charity network.

In addition to the stellar work she's done keeping a focus on the Katrina aftermath, she's done great shows on topics like Darfur, sexual slavery, race relations, etc.


One of her current "campaigns" is to get Americans to reduce their debt -- America's Debt Diet, she calls it. Tune in Friday to see what it's all about.

She's also publicizing Most Wanted sexual predator photos and giving $100K of HER OWN MONEY (not one of the charities) to people who turn in these predators. This is a periodic show as well.

Many, many, many shows on highly spiritual, enlightening, uplifting subjects. Mattie Stepanovich, the angelic and brilliant young poet who Jimmy Carter befriended and admired, for example. She had Mattie and Carter on her show.

I also remember shows about pediatric AIDS and Ryan White, and so forth and so on. Women and others who have overcome all sorts of traumas and horrific life events to go on to triumph, etc.

She isn't "the most influential woman" in the country (as she has been called on CNN in the Anderson Cooper promos) because she runs crap on all her TV shows. It's insulting to her mostly women viewers for people to claim she does.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:49 AM
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34. Are we on the outs with Oprah?
Sorry, I haven't followed the posts.

We don't have an Oprah-Gate or something going on do we?

I know.. I could go read all those posts.. but..

I don't feel like it.

So in a nutshell, what's up with O? :shrug:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 03:27 AM
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35. Switch the title of her magazine to "egO". n/t
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:45 AM
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36. I don't think she should do anything.
I can't think of a reason why it is her, or anyone's, responsibility to make DUers happy. :shrug:

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:02 AM
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37. I have nothing against her, but imagine if SHE did a show on black voter
disenfranchisement.

Would the rest of the mainstream media be able to ignore it?

Can you imagine if she got all the yentas in the country fired up about that?

She could be the Cindy Sheehan of black voting rights.

Speaking of which, has she had Cindy on?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:17 PM
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44. That would have a real impact,
if she became too political it would turn the oblivious masses who adore her off. It would be a balancing act, but she can pull it off so long as it isn't threatening. She'd also have to ignore the orchestrated attack campaigns from the right that intimidate into silence anyone who tries to tell the truth these days.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:51 PM
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53. That's what happened to Rosie
She was the woman America loved (and like it or not, they're *are* millions of women who watch people like Oprah and Rosie). She also used her influence to raise millions for kids causes. But, then she did things like come out, and smack down Tom Selleck and then freak out about 911.

The result. No show. No magazine deal. No more public platform.

If you haven't noticed yet, most people aren't like us. It's not a talk show host's responsibility to make them that way and if they start doing so, people will just change the channel and face RW "outrage."
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:34 PM
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64. As a matter of fact I have noticed most people aren't
aware of the harm this administration is causing the world and futute generations. If you read my comment you'll notice that it was exactly my point. Of course Oprah would necessarily walk a tight rope to raise the issues that are important and survive the inevitable right wing attacks which will follow.

You seem to forget that all was well and good for Oprah so long as it was the right wing she supported.

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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:13 PM
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74. She is NOT a right wing supporter. Stop promoting that lie.
It's simply untrue. I watch her nearly every friggin' day. She is NOT a rightwing supporter.

She had both Bush and Gore on prior to the election -- and NEITHER candidate on before 2004. She had Arnold on because she and Maria Shriver have been friends for decades now. It was a horrible mistake, IMO, just as her support of that pathological liar James Frey was a mistake. But SHE IS NOT SOLELY RESPONSIBLE for either win, so quit trying to make her more responsible than any one else. That is the very essence of sexism and racism.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:15 PM
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82. Why do you think Bush hung her autographed picture
prominently in the visitors section of the WH immediately after he assumed power?

He knew how important she was to making the election close so wanted to thank her and let the rest of the world know his apreication.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:50 PM
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88. He did that?
Can you provide a link for that?

And you can read his mind, too?

Who else's picture is hung in that section?

Could it also be possible that since his vote totals among AA was so low, it was hung there? How about he was just trying to ride her coattails?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 12:19 PM
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46. You are so right. n/t
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:06 AM
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38. For starters, she could tell her audience to stop SHRIEKING so loud.
Gah! I can't watch her show because all the women are screaming and shrieking everytime Oprah says or does anything.

Her audience drives in from the Lakeshore, in their Volvo station wagons, all of them wearing the same hairstyle, sunglasses and pissed-off expression and they are on some kind of holy pilgrimage. She is their 'religion'.

Stop screaming, gals. Somebody is gonna get trampled to death one of these days...mark my words.:silly:
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:15 PM
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75. Uh, no
Your ignorance (of her show) and classism and misogynism are showing. Her audience is all across the board, including the very poor and I would HOPE the very rich because they would definitely benefit from it.

Very ugly post. Sexist as all get out.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:38 PM
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85. Silly.
Her audience all looks the same..and they SHRIEK and scream and just overall pee their pants whenever Oprah opens her mouth.

And I haven't seen too many "very poor" or homeless people sitting in her audience. Get real.

If over the top name calling is all you got...you have too much time on your hands.

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:21 PM
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48. Absolutely nothing.
She's got better things to do with her time.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 01:30 PM
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50. Give us all new houses and laptops
Maybe relocate all of us to Hawaii where we can all type to DU naked and reenact the 2004 Primary...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:04 PM
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55. Oprah should do what she wants.
Look at the laundry list of things DUers want her to talk about. Why? because they see her as influential with a huge audience. Reminds me of the ANSWER crowd using the anti-war marches to scream Free Mumia.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:12 PM
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56. Oprah
If she can have Bush and Arnold on her show why not have a Democrat on her show for the whole hour?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:17 PM
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58. Like Barack Obama?
Or that she had Gore on as well a Bush.

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 02:20 PM
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60. Oh, you can't count that
It doesn't support the fact that Oprah is evil, or perhaps a supporter of evil.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:26 PM
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63. Oprah probably isn't evil
She was likely was so insulated that she was unaware of the evil she was supporting, but she has no business now pretending that they aren't responsible.

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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:17 PM
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76. Exactly -- she had both on: Obama and Gore
Both for the whole hour. Obama and his lovely wife, and Oprah was VERY admiring of both of them and showed all about his background, etc.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 04:42 PM
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66. I like DU.
I don't understand why Oprah should care about us though.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:20 PM
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77. Jump off a bridge.
That would make me happy.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:50 PM
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79. you know whats really sad? The fact we have to look towards Oprah
and Jon Stewart to cure our ills. Why do we even have elected officials anymore?
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:56 PM
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80. Donate 250 million to start a progressive-left cable news network
It's the best thing anyone with that kind of money could do for our country.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:20 PM
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83. No, her appeal is to the everyman American, I would lose
all respect for her if she "chose" a side. I mean, she's pissed at the Bushies for Katrina's failure and coming from her, weighs much more than a drooling elected DeM official grovelling at the House/Senate podium :D
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:32 PM
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84. Right the mythical "everyman American"
LOL......
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 06:39 PM
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86. She could adopt/marry me. That would be sweet!
:silly:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 07:33 PM
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89. I have a question. Oprah cares about humanity, right?
She's helping Katrina victims, she has given big bucks to her charities, etc. It's all good.

But what I don't get is....

Why doesn't Oprah have Cindy Sheehan on her show? WHY?

Why doesn't she use her show as a vehicle to tell the truth that the media whores lie about?!!!


Oprah has the power, the means, the opportunity to inform...

The future of this country and it's people desperately need someone in her position...

That she is not doing everything she can to "defeat the bad guys" is beyond frustrating.... :banghead:

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SONUVABUSH Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 07:55 PM
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90. how about
shave her head?
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:09 AM
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92. After watching her show today....She should STOP exploiting human misery
for her own personal profit.

This woman makes her living off of exploiting the suffering of others.

She is a sick voyeur and she gets rich off of the misery of others.

Anyone who tries to portray her as a great humanitarian is equally as whacked.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:52 AM
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94. Apparently, from a lot of posts on DU, the ONLY way Oprah
could make some DUers happy is to kill herself.

Me. I love the woman (even if a lot of her shows are fluff.)

She's done more than most of us here on this board combined
to make this world a better place in which to live.

No one on this board would take it lightly if the rest of us started telling someone what to do, when to do it and why.
Oprah is her own person and she has every right to live her life as she sees fit.

How anyone could rag on her when she's actually doing GOOD in this world is beyond me.
For all the anti-Oprah folk out there, save your negative energy for * and company.
They deserve the hatred, not Oprah.

As to what she should do or has the power to do, it's totally up to her, not us.
No one HAS to be a political force in this country.
We still have the right to choose that, don't we?
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:16 AM
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95. I think she's great

That show's an hour of education for most of the people who watch it, and they can't get much else.

Oh, she also has beautiful galpal, judging from the Enquirer pictures.
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