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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:47 PM
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"bush is for it (sale to UAE) so you are against it"
Dittohead splaining to Al Franken why liberals oppose the port sale to UAE. By God, that makes perfect fucking sense to me. I think we should all get onboard. Imagine if everything bush was for never happened. IMAGINE!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:48 PM
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1. Al's really getting frustrated with the jerk. NT
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:52 PM
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7. Al's just being as ass when he has these right wing morons...
on. It gets even worse when he has his right wing WWE and Country "Music" "friends" on. :puke: Does Rush ever smooze in the open with his opponents? :eyes:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:00 PM
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10. I don't mind hearing from them once in a while. Once a week is fine.
I have no idea whether Rush schmoozes with his opponents; I've never listened to him. But then Rush is a coward, isn't he?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:49 PM
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2. Can they REALLY be that farking stupid?
How do these people dress themselves? Do they have nannies?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:49 PM
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3. Some lefties do follow that logic...
I just haven't see the Shrubbery administration do one fucking positive thing no matter how hard I look at it.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:56 PM
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9. Yep, his opinion is a pretty good indicator of faulty thinking
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:50 PM
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4. Al should remind dithead that Kerry spoke about port security for 2yrs
before the election and Bush claimed at that time that he would never put our security in the hands of foreign governments.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:50 PM
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5. It is beyond me why Franken
has that moronic freeper on period. He's not funny. He's not intelligent. He is definately not entertaining. BTW Franken did a shitty job arguing with him.
He could have slam dunked the fool but did his usual fumbling and was extremely weak.
Not a huge Franken fan here and I live in Minnesota. His books are great, his radio sucks.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:50 PM
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6. I'm sorry last I heard, Bush was claiming he didn't even know
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 01:53 PM
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8. George "Dubai" Bush
n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:02 PM
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11. It's a pretty safe bet
Here's how almost any story goes. Shrub does something outrageous. We're all outraged.

Then someone does some digging into the details. Now, it's worse than we thought.

Someone else ties it into another scandal.

Everyone suddenly notices that it fits nicely into a pattern. AGAIN.

So, yes we're against almost everything that HE HIMSELF pays attention to.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:04 PM
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12. Franken could have nailed him more on why UAE was bad choice
He let Dittohead keep coming back with the racist card comment without swattting him with the facts...

UAE recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan

UAE is responsible for illegal nuclear shipments to Iran, North Korea and Libya

FBI says money was transferred to the 9/11 hijackers through UAE banks

UAE is not cooperating in efforts to track down Osama's bank accounts

UAE leaders have direct ties to Carlyle Group, part of Bush crime family

Gonzales, Rice, Rumsfeld, Bush and Cheney think it's a "good idea"

Dubai Ports World is controlled by the UAE royal family

Again, if this was Clinton, you can bet the decision would be seen as EVIL...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:07 PM
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14. He did mention that UAE was one of three govts that recognize the Taliban.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:58 PM
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28. True...
I agree...but Mark The Dittohead kept batting back with the "racist" thingie...perhaps Al just wants to tell him to f*&% off, but they go way back...still, it was frustrating...almost like watching Juan Williams get foggy-eyed when he has all kinds on openings on Faux Snooze Sundee...
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:09 PM
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15. Wow, you must be a racist too
You obviously are just another liberal with all your fancy "supposed" facts. Why don't you listen to rush and find out the real truth and real facts.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:12 PM
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17. I wrote Al in complete frustration with that exchange.
The 45 days isn't the point. The multiple ties to terrorists is the point.

Hell, it's bush himself who said that we don't distinguish between terrorists and those who harbor terrorists.

So hold him to it.

I had to turn the radio off I was so annoyed.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:26 PM
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21. Off topic, but . . .
I looked at your site and will definitely return to shop!
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:51 PM
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25. Oooh, thanks!
We're slowly stocking up after the Holiday rush and sales, so I hope we'll have what you want in stock.

Thanks for looking!
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:40 PM
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24. Don't forget to add to that list
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 02:46 PM by MsMagnificent
Bush administration declined to bomb Osama bin Laden in 2004 because members of the UAE royal family were visiting him (bin Laden) and according to article (seen just an hour or so posted on DU) woould have killed about half the royal family!

And this government is safe to operate our ports?
O.M.G.

edit: Link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=488962
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:07 PM
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13. I heard it and it made me mad
enough to email Al and tell him I knew he wasn't racist. The freeper is lucky I wasn't there, or I would have told him a few simple truths-it doesn't matter what race or religion a crook is, you don't hire him for a job with security. UAE has a "record" of poor port security, which is enough for me.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:09 PM
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16. I'm sure he meant that as an insult
But for me at least, there's some truth to it. Frankly, at this point, I don't trust Bush at all. I think he's in bed with the biggest a**holes in corporate America (and the Middle East, for that matter), and I don't think he has my interest or the interest of any other little guy at heart in any way. So, yes, I'm suspicious of anything he wants to do bad enough to fight with Congress over it, no matter how innocent it seems on the surface. Whatever it is, it probably screws us and makes his CEO buddies lots of money. He's lost my trust, and there is likely nothing at all he can do to get it back at this point. It may be a kneejerk reaction, but after a while everybody flinches when they get hit in the face enough times. Know what I mean?
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:14 PM
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18. uhm,
Did I hear correctly? Franken would be OK to have the UAE government run our ports once they're rubberstamped by Bushco's Congress? Why didn't he smack that dittohead down with some commonsense points? Is Al becoming another don't-commit, say-no-more-than-necessary, go-along, wait-and-see, DINOS? This is NOT about racism. Rush is using that as his talking point only because he has nowhere else to go. That Mark Luther guy is a gullible, brainwashed dumbass and I am now listening to Thom Hartman.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:18 PM
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19. No. He was totally against it. When Luther asked who else would
Franken approve, that's when Al brought up the 45 day investigations.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:32 PM
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22. What I heard was
Luther repeatedly hammering him with the question, "Would you approve of the sale if they went through the 45 day investigation and got approved?" Al said, "Well, yes. I guess I would." I am not a Franken hater, by the way. I appreciate some things about him. But I was shocked that he did not bring more energy to a discussion that should have been a slam dunk. By all means, correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I heard. I have AAR Premium so I might check the mp3 if I have time. That's how shocked I was. . .
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:38 PM
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23. I didn't get that, but I'll check out the MP3 later on or tomorrow.
As far as the energy thing, I think he might have been gobsmacked (for lack of a better word) at being called racist by a friend. I have one GOP pal who sometimes hits me upside the head with a GOP race card once in a while, and I have been known to be shocked into silence for a while.

I've never been directly called "racist" by my friend, though, so I don't know how I would react. (She's a Black Republican, BTW. I've asked her how she can possibly explain that, and she refers to her family's military background.)
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:02 PM
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26. Yeah,
maybe Al is waking up to the fact that M. Luther is not the sharpest tool in the shed and is willing to follow Rush at any price, including calling a supposed dear friend a racist. Gotta go to work--thanks for the back and forth.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:18 PM
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20. I agree
Al did not bring the fight to the debate; but I do commend him for having more than just syncophants to chat on his program. Imagine limbaugh hosting Joe Wilson. Never happen. limbaugh would need a heav dose after that ass whupping. Al is not a dino, he's a kind human being easily outshouted by a moron. And you are deadon about limbaugh having no where to go. Irony. Conservatives wanting arabs to protect our ports. If you object, you are a racist.
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:09 PM
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27. It is the other way around
Freepers are for it for no other reason than Bush is for it. I swear they can NOT think for themselves.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:25 PM
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29. These people are only loyal to Bush and the GOP
I never knew this degree of disloyalty to this country even existed until this breed of Republican came into being. All of the Republican Senators and the Congresspeople are fully willing to sell their country down the river for $$$$$
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:30 PM
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30. Hmmm, I thought Freepers were for the Dubai deal
because they hate Israel and want to see it destroyed. UAE is one of only three nations who recognize the Taliban. UAE also does not recognize Israel's right to exist.

Are you sure it's not all about Right Wingers hating Israel, more than they hate themselves?

:sarcasm:
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