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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:51 PM
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Kicking George Will's Ass Makes Me SOOOO Happy!!!!
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 12:15 AM by NanceGreggs
Thanks to fellow DUer Bigmack, who posted this link earlier to an article by the inimitable George Will. Prompted by the inane rhetoric contained therein, I couldn't stop myself from responding.

Mr. Will's Washington Post article can be found here:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060223/news_lz1e23will.html


And here, on behalf of my fellow Liberals, is my response:


Dear Mr. Will,

It is with great amusement that I read your recent article, “Conservatives Are A Happier Group” – actually, it made be quite happy. And imagine that, a liberal like myself being happy, a state which you seem to believe is unattainable for someone of my political leanings.

You state that the results of the Pew Research Center, showing that conservatives are happier than liberals, is “niftily self-reinforcing” in that it depresses liberals. On the contrary, sir. What it does reinforce is the long-held belief by liberals that conservatives simply don’t give a damn about anything beyond their own immediate self-gratification. And I, for one, totally enjoy being vindicated.

Traditionally, conservatives have been staunch supporters of fiscal responsibility in government. Living under the current Bush regime, one can only suppose that if true conservatives are still happy, they must be totally ignorant of what’s going on. The present administration has gone far beyond just spending the nation’s capital; they are running up the national credit card, if you will, with all of the responsibility of a drunken sailor who’s just been told he has twenty-four hours to live.

But as they say, ignorance is bliss, which would go a long way to explaining why our present-day conservatives are so incredibly blissful.

Of course, it’s a more complex issue than ignorance, or even simple-minded stupidity. Over the last five disastrous years, conservatives, as is their wont, have wrapped themselves in the flag and questioned the patriotism of anyone who criticizes their view of the country not as it could be, but as they think it should be. I suppose that if one considered that ‘patriotism’ should extend no further than any one individual’s own backyard, conservatives are patriotic in the extreme.

Liberals, however, tend to see America as a vast group of people, whose backyards are not defined by, nor restricted to, physical boundaries. Our neighbourhoods extend into communities, which in turn extend into counties, into states, and on into one nation, where the well-being of our countrymen becomes a part of our own satisfaction with the world.

You have said that Liberals take their bearings from President Franklin Roosevelt, and think “the attainment of happiness itself, understood in terms of security and material well-being, is an entitlement that government has created and can deliver.”

I guess the problem here is that liberals believe in the Constitution, and in the concept that the government is not – or should not be – something in and of itself. It is rather (or was meant to be) elected representatives, on behalf of those they represent, making informed decisions as to the expenditure of our collective funds, the stewardship of our natural resources, and the manner in which we interact with the world beyond our own borders.

Liberals do not see the government as something apart from the citizenry, as an entity that can promise nor deliver happiness. But as the guardian (not the owner) of our tax dollars, the government is obligated to disburse those monies in such a way as to better the lives of all Americans, and to better the country as a whole.

Most Americans, regardless of political party affiliation, want to see the hungry fed, the homeless sheltered, the victims of natural disaster given assistance in their time of need. But you don’t have to take my word for it. Simply ask the millions of Americans who have donated their hard-earned money to aid the residents of New Orleans, or those who contribute regularly to food banks and homeless shelters, while our government spends our money – yes, America’s money – on waging an unwinnable war.

Conservatives, on the other hand, adopt a more everyman-for-himself attitude. Rather than pool the financial resources of a community to equip and man a fire department, they think it the wiser course for each household to stock a fire-extinguisher and a garden hose – and if your house catches fire, well, you’re on your own.

I am truly astonished that conservatives, who constantly complain about what they perceive to be ‘government handouts’, have not been marching in the streets of late, protesting the handouts being given, in the form of tax cuts and subsidies, to corporations that are raking in record profits. I’ve yet to hear a conservative tell the oil companies, the banks, or the pharmaceutical industry to pull itself up by its boot-straps and stop relying on those ‘government handouts’ to increase their bottom line. Maybe they’re all too busy being ‘happy’.

I am particularly amused by your comment about the tattered Gore and Kerry bumper-stickers. Perhaps, in your self-proclaimed conservative euphoria, you have failed to notice the phenomenon of the disappearing “W” stickers that once adorned the bumpers of the newly-jobless, the newly-poor, the newly-debt ridden, whose disenchantment with this conservative administration is reflected daily in Bush’s plummeting poll numbers. As for those who cling to their worn liberal banners , perhaps they just think it better to display what you have called “relics of failed crusades” than now-forgotten slogans hailing a failed conservative presidency.

Ah, yes, the comment about liberals not being happy because they are too worried about global warming, urban sprawl, and the unchecked paving over of our once-beautiful landscape. Well, I don’t know if you have grandchildren, Mr. Will. But if you do, I hope you’ll explain to them that if they can attain your years and still venture into one of our cities without a self-contained oxygen tank, they’ll have we miserable liberals to thank for it. As they mature, be sure to tell them that Grandpa had nothing to do with saving the environment; tell them he was just too damned busy being ‘happy’ to concern himself with their future.

“Liberalism is a complicated and exacting, not to say grim and scolding, creed. And not one conducive to happiness.” Well, here is where I beg to differ most of all. There is nothing complicated about being a liberal; on the contrary. Caring about one’s fellow American couldn’t be a simpler way to go about one’s life – but perhaps it’s the ‘caring’ part that you find so complicated.

Grim? Scolding? I suppose that if you look at what the country has become under a conservative administration, the word ‘grim’ does immediately come to mind. As for scolding, how else does one deal with the childish self-centeredness of the Bush regime?

As for liberalism not being conducive to happiness, I imagine that’s dependent on what makes one happy. For some, it is simply a matter of looking after one’s own personal interests, one’s own pursuit of wealth, and the creature comforts that exist within one’s own isolated world.

For liberals like myself, happiness is the fortitude to fight for what is right, for what is just, for what is fair for one’s fellow citizens as well as one’s self, and our beloved nation. It is what I try do every day, and I absolutely revel in the unbounded joy that it brings.


Yours Truly,
Nancy Greggs, HAPPY LIBERAL
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:53 PM
Response to Original message
1. You sent him this, of course. Please tell me you did.
n/t
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Oh, you're damned REAL I sent it ...
... and never before, in the annals of internetz history, has the hitting of the SEND button caused such unbridled JOY!!!!!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #4
65. Send it to every newspaper Will is syndicated in......
as a rebuttal to his, "angry liberal" screed. VERY well done! :applause:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #4
102. May I spread this around?
With attribution of course.

I'm not feeling the least bit grim after reading your rebuttal to that ass.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #102
114. Please feel free ...
As for 'not feeling the least bit grim', that seems to be the general concensus. It makes you wonder where the Pew Research group gets their information ...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #4
130. It's a brilliant rebuttal
of george will's willful declaration that "conservatives are happier".

Is he sure they're not drinking spiked koolaid?
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:59 PM
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2. Beautifully written.
:kick:

Shame that the Repugs just listen to hate radio. If they'd read your stuff, they might actually figure out that not everyone wants to be selfish jerks.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:00 AM
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3. Nancy Greggs, that ROCKS
and he doesn't deserve it. :thumbsup:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:08 AM
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5. George Will - natering nabob of negativism
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
112. hey buried news - great graphic of Darth Dick - but he now it needs UAE
stamped on either his chin, or next Texaco.. :hi:
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:14 AM
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6. Brava, Nance!
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 12:18 AM by InternalDialogue
Fantastic letter, even if it were to be seen by no one but you -- but you've shared it with us and, thankfully, with George Will too. You've a great way with your words, and I really love the letter. It sounds like you relished putting it together, and the result is perfect. I wish my thoughts were half as coherent as your writing.

(edited to sound at least a tenth as lucid as NanceGreggs' letter)
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. And I wish my writing was half as coherent ...
... as the thoughts expressed by my fellow DUers right here every day.

Thanks for your kindness ...
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #9
117. Your writing is undeniably coherent...
what sets it apart, though, is its genuine humanity & simplicity--a direct contrast with the self-righteous, bombastic punditry of Willy-boy. SG

:applause:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #9
128. nance your rant was great!
we need people like you.........
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:16 AM
Response to Original message
7. Awesome!
I think it goes hand in hand with my "Dear Average Republican" post.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. Link, please?
I'd love to read it - the title alone is totally INTRIGUING!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #10
15. It's long past now...
I posted it about four or five days ago. Here it it in its entirety, though.


****

Dear Average Republican,

There is NO "liberal agenda" but the shared interest of liberals who want to see things get better for everyone. You, your parents, and the guy who bags groceries down at the Piggly-Wiggly. Liberals want to see you with enough money to buy groceries, pay off your house, and put at least one gas-efficient vehicle in your garage.

It's not an agenda. It's people hoping for the best for other people.

It's about hoping that your Uncle John, who's been farming the same plot of land for the last 40 years, doesn't lose his farm because he falls off his tractor and breaks his leg and can't pay his doctor bill. It's about hoping that you have some options when your town's biggest employer goes belly-up because it can't compete with that textile factory in China.

It's about making sure you get paid enough that you don't have to take two or three jobs just to make ends meet. So you can spend more time with your family...so you can play catch with your boys, or take them fishing on weekends, or take your little girl to the local swimming hole and teach her how to swim.

It's not an agenda to want the best for people. It's just humanity. It's about being a good neighbor, even if that neighbor lives half a country away.

Ask a liberal what empathy is...it's about understanding where someone else is coming from. And most of us try very hard, even if we don't agree.

Being a liberal isn't about making fun of God, or your beliefs about him. Most liberals take the Sermon on the Mount to heart. They try to live the teachings of Jesus, even if some aren't sure he's really the Son of God. Thomas Jefferson called him the World's Greatest Moral Philosopher. You'll find very few liberals who'd disagree with that.

It's because of liberals that your ten year olds get to go to school rather than being forced to work in factories for spare change. It's because of liberals that you can trust your workplace to be safe and free of unexpected dangers. It is because of liberals that, should you be injured at work, you can expect fair medical treatment and compensation for your lost work, and have money coming in if you’re laid off.

That's what we do. We try to look out for everybody. Even the people who hate us. We don't have an agenda. We don't take marching orders from anyone. We do what we do because we believe in people. We believe in you.

All we ask is that you begin to believe in us.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #15
18. Brilliantly written, Mythsaje!
Please do us ALL the honour of sending it along to Mr. Will!

He can be reached at: georgewill@washpost.com
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. I'm not sure what good it would do to send
it to him...but it's an idea.

I'd rather it go out to the people it was written for, a goal with which HE certainly isn't going to cooperate. LOL
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #18
70. I'm curious...
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 11:06 AM by reichstag911
...did Will bother to reply? I've emailed him a couple times in the past when his bloviations were particularly odious, on one occasion mentioning his little ethical problem wherein he wrote complimentary things (without, of course, divulging this blatant conflict of interest) about an organization that had recently given him a $25,000 "honorarium" for a speaking engagement. Never heard a peep from the bow-tied geekboy...
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #70
75. most people who are syndicated
are not going to write back to a Joe or Jane average who writes them. I have never heard back from Paul Krugman either or any of the NT Times columnists - MoDo, Kristoff, Safire, or Herbert. Actually, Mr. Herbert wrote to me two or three times - a one word reply 'thanks'. However, they are probably far less likely to reply to a critic than they are to a fan.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #75
81. Thanks, but...
...1) I was asking NanceGreggs, not you; and 2) you may consider yourself as a "Joe or Jane average" not worthy of a reply, but I don't, and I usually get a reply, usually more than token, when I email someone who's written something that inspired me to follow up with them. Also, more often than not when the muse strikes me and I write a LTTE, I get the confirmation of authorship call, usually followed by subsequent publication of my letters. Be intelligent and write well, and you'll find most of these people surprisingly interested and engaged in the exchange of ideas. Not George Will, of course, but...
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #81
87. thanks but
1) I did not say I was not worthy of a reply, simply that even liberal icons like Paul Krugman, Bob Herbert and Eric Alterman usually don't reply to me. I understand that they probably get too much mail to make replying worthwhile.
2) awful nice of you to imply that I am not intelligent and do not write well.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #15
34. That is really moving, Mythsaje ~
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 02:55 AM by Catrina
It makes me cry a little because it is so true, and because today all that is good, expressed so beautifully in your post, has been condemned by the heartless, selfish, and greedy bullies who have taken over this country.

The thoughts in your last paragraph are so similar to those expressed by John F. Kennedy in his speech on why he was proud to be a liberal (which I posted below) I am posting them again so that you can see them. Great minds think alike! :-)

...For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves. John F. Kennedy

And yours:

That's what we do. We try to look out for everybody. Even the people who hate us. We don't have an agenda. We don't take marching orders from anyone. We do what we do because we believe in people. We believe in you.

All we ask is that you begin to believe in us.


It seems liberals were under the same kind of attack by 'happy Conservatives' back then, as they are now! There is controversy over who really killed him, but one thing I feel certain of, it was NOT a liberal! I wonder how different this country would be today, had he lived ~ :cry:

John Kennedy was a liberal the whole world loved. Mr. Wills might want to ask himself why the current Conservative president, by contrast, is so hated. Maybe because Liberal, John Kennedy exuded joy and hope, while Conservative George Bush spreads hatred, death and fear??




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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #34
101. Thank you so much...
It was something I really felt I had to write, and now believe people need to see.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #15
51. You should submit it to a Knight-Ridder newspaper
you can find out where their local papers are and submit your piece.
http://www.knightridder.com/

zalinda
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #51
103. It's too long for the editorial pages, generally...
Otherwise I would. I'm not sure WHERE they'd publish it, even if they wanted to.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #103
111. Knight Ridder will publish a letter as a column
if it is a good letter. We've had many published here in Syracuse, and they even do it as if you're a real columnist. You have nothing to lose by sending it in.

zalinda
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #111
122. Ooh...thanks for the info.
I'll definitely think about it.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #51
124. I did it...
No way to know what they'll do with it, but thanks for the suggestion.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #124
125. Way to go, Mythsaje!!!!!!
Please keep your DU family informed as to what happens!!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #125
126. Will do...
There's actually a local Knight-Ridder newspaper somewhere about 30 miles south of us...in the state capitol, no less. It's a very liberal city, so maybe they'll be happy to publish it.

I'm always happy to get my name out there. I already have something of a reputation for courting controversy among my fellow authors.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #15
89. Another beautiful piece!
:grouphug:
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #15
109. This is beautifully written too.. what great talented writers that can be
found right here on DU... it's a talent i wish i had, but since i don't, i'm very pleased to know others of like mine DO...!

bravo! bravo! :applause: :applause:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #15
129. I see a new bumper sticker
The Liberal Agenda: Caring for Others As You Care for Yourself


Very nicely said!
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:16 AM
Response to Original message
8. POW! Great Letter
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 12:20 AM by ms liberty
Bookmarking this one - very inspiring

C'mon ya'll this needs one more Rec!

edited: went overboard with the exclamation points
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:22 AM
Response to Original message
11. God, he is such an ass.
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 12:25 AM by Hissyspit
The response to his thesis is obvious; he just so easily opens himself to ridicule.
He never fails to be an ass.

What an ass.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:22 AM
Response to Original message
12. Yessir, that's my baby!
:party:
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:23 AM
Response to Original message
13. great stuff, Nance!! n/t
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:23 AM
Response to Original message
14. Great job
Your link to the George Will piece doesn't seem to work.

Here's a different one, just in case: http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/will022306.asp
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #14
19. Thanks for the prompt, Steve!
I've now posted the correct link.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:24 AM
Response to Original message
16. I'll marry you!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:31 AM
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17. As soon as I'm done with this response, consider this thread K&N!
That sums up why I am a liberal too. I don't think DU has a "manifesto" but I believe we should adopt your beautiful letter and make it the official one of DU and all Liberals/Democrats everywhere. It also has a nice ring of a launching a Presidential run speech to it!

:toast:
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maxfisher Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #17
21. Wow!
That is exactly what I wish I could express. I live in Mississppi and I get so mad I can never put it all together. Thank you 1 That was great.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #21
59. Welcome to DU max!
Welcome! :hi:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:06 AM
Response to Original message
22. Dear Skinner, Earl and Elad,
Will you put this letter on the frontpage?

yours, and have a happy day.
dp
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #22
31. I second the motion...
:applause:
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #22
113. I third the motion!
Let's get this letter some visibility!
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:08 AM
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23. K & R
Oh, what a fantastic letter, and you hit the nail on the head. What sort of polling question would determine that conservatives are a jolly bunch? Do they mean Rush? Ann Coulter? The Faux groupies? or perhaps those intellectual giants of the sparkling wit over at freeperville? ("I hate libruls cuz ther wrong." "Yeah!").
Thanks for sharing the great SLAM with us.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #23
56. But that's different --
Somewhere in George Will's screed, he says something about how it's okay to be 'professionally angry', when he mentions talk radio types. So in his view, one can be angry as long as it pays the bills, but to be angry on principle makes you ridiculous.

Dear George, Idiots are also presumed to be happy but I don't want to be one of them either.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:19 AM
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24. I love it !~
Great letter Nancy !
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:23 AM
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25. Hey Nance -- All I can say is
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UnwillingSkeptic05 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:41 AM
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26. Bravo!
Things posted like the articles, by Nancy and Myth seem to sum up why I'm proud to be a liberal as well.
Again, bravo! This article made my day(Guess that makes me a happy liberal too?).
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:52 AM
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27. A HAPPY Liberal?
Now you're REALLY f#ckin' up the Pew Research people. Maybe we should call them and DEMAND A RECOUNT!
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:55 AM
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28. That is, without a doubt, one of the best things I've ever read.
K & R and I'm bookmarking this for future reference. :yourock:
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:13 AM
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29. Excellent Post! Brilliant Writing ! and POW !
I sure this reaches his desk.. but you know this needs to be rated up to be the absolute GREATEST THREAD on DU since I've been here!

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

:applause: :applause: :applause:
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:19 AM
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30. kicking for the am crowd - this needs to be rated up up up to the greatest
:kick:
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missouri dem 2 Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:23 AM
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32. Great letter.
Somehow I just don't think of George Will as a happy fellow. The words that come to mind are, smug, condescending, arrogant, prissy and uptight. Maybe someone could photoshop George as Jolly Saint Nick and that would help me visualize him as happy but I think that years of seeing the pompous ass on the tv have indelibly ruled out the possibility.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:30 AM
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33. Beautiful, Nancy ~ John Kennedy was a proud liberal also, and I thought
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 02:34 AM by Catrina
this thread might be a great place to post his words, along with yours, on what it means to be a liberal. Maybe someone should send HIS words to George Wills also, who btw, always looks and sounds extremely miserable and unhappy whenever I see him ~

Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party Nomination (by John F. Kennedy, proud Liberal)
September 14, 1960

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

But first, I would like to say what I understand the word "Liberal" to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a "Liberal," and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.

.....


This is my political credo:

I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.

I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/presidents/35_kennedy/psources/ps_nyliberal.html

Your post is a masterpiece ~ maybe George Will would be kind enough to publish it, although I doubt he will, mainly because like most of today's Conservatives, he's too mean-spirited and insecure to to give the public the opportunity to compare and judge for themselves, whether his words can stand up to those of a real liberal, not the charicature invented by the jealous, dark, souless Scrooges who call themselves Conservatives today.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:06 AM
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35. Great Letter
:woohoo: :toast: :thumbsup:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:01 AM
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36. Nancy Fancy Pantsy! I Love You! This Line Just Made Me Pump My Fist
Caring about one’s fellow American couldn’t be a simpler way to go about one’s life – but perhaps it’s the ‘caring’ part that you find so complicated.


So fucking beautiful:loveya:
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:17 AM
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37. Fantastic Response Nancy!
Seriously, he is probably curled up and crying, in a corner, right now.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:31 AM
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38. Outstanding letter!!
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 04:32 AM by Humor_In_Cuneiform
Let us know if His Happiness responds, hehe!!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:59 AM
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39. you totally ROCK, Nancy
:thumbsup:
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:45 AM
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41. Nancy I envy your writing skills
You have stated so eloquently what so many of us want to say.

I once respect those that called themselves conservatives because I realized that each of us in some aspects hold conservative opinions depending on the individual issue.

The George Wills are conservative in name only. They care little that our Nation has been bankrupted for generations to come and our notes are being held by China, Russia, Japan, etc. NOt only are our jobs being outsourced but also our lands and security systems. The George Wills and the BFEE are only claim to conservatism is to conserve all the power and money for themselves.....The Republican Party has become the ME Party and has willingly sold our Nation out. They are truly traitors.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:40 AM
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40. This is one of the things that make me proud to be affiliated...
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 05:40 AM by terrya
with Democratic Underground. This is simply superb. And it reinforces MY pride of being a happy liberal.

Thank you, Nancy. Thank you. :thumbsup:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:55 AM
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42. Ah, the sound of gases being emitted from Will's ego bag.....
Beautifully done
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:09 AM
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43. K & R
:kick:
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:17 AM
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44. I wonder what it costs to take out a full page ad in WaPo?
I'd certainly kick in some cash to see this published there in an "in-your-face" style.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:15 AM
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45. This is so wonderful.
Beautiful! :lick:
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:24 AM
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46. You TOTALLY HANDED George Will his ass! Bravo, Nance!
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 08:31 AM by SCRUBDASHRUB
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You opened up a big ol' can of whoop ass on ol' George!

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:41 AM
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47. Just Marvelous
Thank You.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:46 AM
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48. Nancy - that's a truly brilliant letter.
What's apparent to me is how deeply it came from your heart. I hope George Will sees it and reads it, not that I have any hope the words will penetrate his thick skull.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:57 AM
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49. Beautifully written....you must get this published somewhere.
Oh, my goodness........you wrote the words down that I have been feeling
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:03 AM
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50. Great letter
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 09:03 AM by karynnj
This is such a strange time for Will to be writing this. There IS anger from our side directed at Bush, but there are reasons for it. Domesticly, he not only partied while people in New Orleans died, but still hasn't led his administration to seriously work at fixing things. Internationally, he has created a disaster in Iraq and aggravated the Palestinian/ Israeli situation by demanding they go forward with elections that neither Abbas or Israel wanted - giving us Hamas in charge.

On his side, there is also intense anger. If you turn on any RW radio show, they are ranting and raving about one Democrat or another - using incredibly inflammatory language. Their hatred of our leaders is directed at them personally - and questions their characters, morality and patriotism. This baseless generation of hatred by the party that is in control of everything is without precedent. The question really is what could make the right wing happy.

It is not out of anger that I keep my Kerry/Edwards sticker, but out of sadness that the country rejected a good man who would have done his best to heal America domestically and internationally. There is no politician who I more whole heartedly voted for.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:35 AM
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52. Nice response...........
unfortunately for conservatives unending war seems to make them happy.....they can play the safety/security card.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:15 PM
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90. Karyn, the country did NOT reject Kerry.
Diebold and Kenneth Blackwell did.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:18 PM
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95. As one whose DU home is the JK group, I meant no disrespect
I think it went beyond Blackwell and Diebold - he had almost every piece of the establishment used against him - and in spite of that he almost won. That he did this with the bulk of the media distorting his personality and history (and Teresa's and even his daughters'), parts of his own church against him, and in many states the very operation of holding the election.

The odd thing is it would have been easier to cast him as an old fashioned all American boy who grew up, kept those values, and used his Senate speech to fight for accountability and fight corruption.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:08 PM
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108. I know you meant no disrespect; just keeping the message out there
that our "elections" are no longer trustworthy.

I phone-banked for Kerry. In my "red" state of VA, even in "red" neighborhoods, I spoke with quite a few Repubs who had regretfully been forced to switch to Dem, by Bush's antics. They sounded so sad, or mad. I know when a politician forces people to leave his party in large numbers, he's toast. Unless he steals it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:15 PM
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110. I saw Republicans switching too
I live in a red county in a blue state, but most of the Republicans are old money traditional Republicans. They were scared by some of the Bush nonsense - the county went to Bush, but with a lower margin than usual.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:36 AM
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53. You can submit your reply to any newspaper
who carried the George Will piece. I would suggest finding a Knight-Ridder newspaper. http://www.knightridder.com/ They will give a column to someone who writes well. I'm sure that one of their papers carried the Will piece.

zalinda
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:40 AM
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54. Excellent letter. George Will, like his many 'happy' conservatives,
worship only at the altar of power and greed.
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:44 AM
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55. What a beautifully written letter
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 09:45 AM by i miss america
Far and away the best I've ever read on DU. Thank you for taking the time to compose and post such a classy response to that arrogant and shallow man.

:kick: :yourock:
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exlrrp Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:53 AM
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57. I'll be happy when Bushco is gone
I can hardly wait. Meanwhile I have enough moments of personal satisfaction in my life to sustain me.
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:01 AM
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58. Nancy, You Rock Girl.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.........:bounce: :yourock:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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slingsam Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:07 AM
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60. Wee Willie Georgie must be Nilly Willie Happy Now!
He'll learn.......about the might of the Pen eventually.........(well, the keyboard).....On Happy Liberals.....to that Happy Day (The last day of King George's Reign!)

Well penned, Ms. Greggs!
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:11 AM
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61. Will's interpretation of the survey is "willfully" misleading
Excerpts from Pew:

How do all these factors play out together? Well, it can get complicated. Sometimes the correlations tend to reinforce one another. For example, healthy people tend to have more income, and both these traits independently correlate with happiness. But sometimes the correlations are not in sync. Frequent church-goers, for example, on average have less income than infrequent church-goers - so their religious profile pushes them up the happiness scale while their financial profile pushes them down. Which factor is more powerful? And is being a Republican really a predictor of happiness, independent of all other factors?

One way to find out is by way of a statistical technique known as multiple regression analysis, which gauges the relationship between each factor and happiness while controlling for all the other factors. That analysis shows that the most robust correlations of all those described in this report are health, income, church attendance, being married and, yes, being a Republican. Indeed, being a Republican is associated not only with happiness, it is also associated with every other trait in this cluster. Even so, the factor that makes the most difference in predicting happiness is neither being a Republican nor being wealthy - it's being in good health.

The same regression analysis also finds that education, gender, and race do not have a statistically significant independent effect on predicting happiness, once all the other factors are controlled.

Keep in mind, however, that even taking into account all these factors, we don't actually improve by very much our ability to predict which specific individual is likely to be very happy. If we knew who'd been fired last week, or who's a glass-is-always-half-full kind of person, we'd probably do a lot better.


More here: http://pewresearch.org/social/pack.php?PackID=1

Will was cherry-picking from a much more complicated set of causalities (I suspect the survey results just the same). Maybe conservatives are "happier" because, like George Will, they're just not smart enough to understand things that would make them unhappy...
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:43 PM
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116. Yes, "will"ful ignorance
is indeed bliss ("Maybe conservatives are "happier" because, like George Will, they're just not smart enough to understand things that would make them unhappy...") SG
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:12 AM
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62. Beautifully done, Nancy!
Please send this to every paper that carries George Will and ask that they print it as a guest editorial. My guess is that they wouldn't be inclined to use it as a LTTE because of its length, but they should carry it as an editorial because it is so well written.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:13 AM
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63. Nancy speaks for me!
Thank you, dear. A most excellent response! :yourock:
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bonzotex Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:19 AM
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64. Thank You!
Will's column was such a piece of silly, smug tripe. Not unusual for him, but more egregious than usual. Thanks for taking the time to smack him down properly. If only letters like yours were printed in the same papers that publish Will's ramblings.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:34 AM
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66. Beautifully formulated arguments.
I definitely urge you to send that to the letters to the editor in whichever paper you first read the Will piece (vile, that).

Kudos to you. :bounce:
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:47 AM
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67. On further reflection
I'm sure the Lone Star Iconoclast http://lonestaricon.com/ would love to have your pieces. Many here subscribe to the paper, and so do many others who listened to Randi when she asked people to support the paper.

zalinda
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:58 AM
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68. Another outstanding commentary, Nancy!


:yourock:

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nmliberal Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:01 AM
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69. So eloquent
This stands alone as such a beautiful expression of how a liberal sees the world as well as a perfect response to G Will
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:07 AM
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71. Will's article made sense
Your article comes across as a bit cross and passive agressive. Eg: Will didn't claim that "happiness is unattainable" for liberals. I'm perfectly willing to accept that by taking a more pessimistic view of human nature, conservatives are more often pleasantly surprised than unpleasantly surprised. Of course there are other factors, like the fact that liberals are out of power. I think it's too simplistic and self-serving to imply that liberals care more about other people than do conservatives (of course, Bush himself is something of an amoral sociopath). For example, my conservative father spends more time worrying about the wellbeing of the 200 people his business employs than about the situation in Darfur. But he's actually getting more done to help those people by providing them with decent livlihoods than we're doing for the people in Darfur.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:21 PM
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83. The dismissal of liberal concerns with labels such as "cross"
...is actually an old technique, one I've first noticed about 25 years ago. By merely pasting labels ("passive-aggressive" and "cross") on something without addressing the construction of an argument or facts marshalled in defense of that argument doesn't really move us anywhere. For example, a liberal woman arguing her point on TV or in Congress will be labeled "shrill" or "whiny" whereas a male pundit or congressman, perhaps equally exercised, will be deemed "aggressive" or "forceful."

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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:21 PM
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91. "something of an amoral sociopath"
Like Attila was something of an annoyance?

Your psychobabble makes me cross.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:07 AM
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72. "Resistance is the secret of joy," Alice Walker
A very well-written piece, Nancy Greggs. I hope you send it out as many outlets as possible as a "guest viewpoint." It deserves to be widely read.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:19 AM
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73. Brilliant piece of writing
Wish I could recommend it 100 times. I hope you get this published far and wide.

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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:26 AM
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74. I wish I could write this well!
Thanks for the great article.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:34 AM
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76. Self Centered Bush and his like minded friends have made SC contagious
This results in CLOSED MINDS

as opposed to the Libreal OPEN MINDS
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feminazi Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:36 AM
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77. EXCELLENT!!!!
:toast:

you rock!!!!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:41 AM
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78. Wonderful!!!
:applause:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:47 AM
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79. Excellent! Excellent! Excellent! Thank you. n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:51 AM
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80. You are amazing. Simply amazing.
Thank you.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:10 PM
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82. Great letter. I suggest conservatives are not "happy" but they are good
at pretense/bravado. To admit their true feelings would be like saying "God doesn't love me." They are very good at burying the truth (cognitive dissonance) comes to mind.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:22 PM
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84. Outstanding letter Nancy Greggs!
I believe you have given George Will a migraine. Most excellent description of the different mindsets.

Kicked and recommended.

:kick:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:32 PM
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85. uncle, to get a migraine, one needs a functioning brain. your hopes will
go unfulfilled, I suspect.

I actually enjoy watching the Willster on TV. He pontificates oh so seriously, but if you bother to dissect what he said, it falls apart with the slightest of breezes of fact and logic.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:49 PM
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86. You have a good point antifaschits,
I bow in your general direction.

I also agree with your analysis of Will's pontifications, while some people can build a house with cards, Will builds entire cities.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:00 PM
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88. Damn that's beautiful!
One perfectly crafted and cogent zinger after another! Best writing I've seen in a long time!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:58 PM
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92. "For liberals like myself, happiness is the fortitude to fight for ...
... what is right, for what is just, for what is fair for one’s fellow citizens as well as one’s self, and our beloved nation. It is what I try do every day, and I absolutely revel in the unbounded joy that it brings."


Exquisite.

Recommended.


Peace.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:13 PM
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93. I am happy to be angry and eff everybody's labels
All my life I a have been suspicious of the follow pack mentality and lately everyday it pays off. George Will sucks but corporate media sucks even more. What is corporate media not reporting and why are they not reporting things would be my questions.

For the premise of the original post: Imagine that, accepting groups of people as a collective whole have a base grade of happy, sad, angry or whatever. I run the gamut of emotions or feelings all day. Of course me being a male and it not manly to say such things I will be dismissed as weak but that's your problem for I am just being who I am....


P.S. My definition of 'male' is that of an anatomical physical characteristic with some tend to be's and not much more
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:16 PM
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94. For people who are supposedly so happy
I sure have noticed a lot of defensive posturing and victim mentality. The Repugs control the Executive Branch, the Senate, the Congress, the SC AND the media. The ball is squarely in their court and yet they're up in arms over the "War on Christmas", the "Defense of Marriage", etc.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:22 PM
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96. Powerfully Awesome, Ma'am......
....you make me PROUD to be and AMERICAN!! GREAT LETTER!!
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:22 PM
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97. Powerfully Awesome, Ma'am......
....you make me PROUD to be and AMERICAN!! GREAT LETTER!!
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:37 PM
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98. Ourstanding
Thank you for sharing it with us.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:54 PM
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99. You kicked his ass back to gradeschool, Nancy. WTG! n/t
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:06 PM
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100. Ignorance IS Bliss
Nice to have some data to back that up now.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:24 PM
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104. This is SOOOOOOOOOO good
It makes me happy to read it.

And I HAAAAAAAAAAAte George Will.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:35 PM
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105. Beautiful. Absolutely Beautiful.
This is a keeper.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:39 PM
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106. i'm proud to say that nance is my younger sister. my mom always
says that even when nance was very young, a teacher told my mom that her writing was so beautiful she should encourage her to write more. she also has many other talents.

love ya sis.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 12:19 AM
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135. You must be proud.
It's a great response. You've got a great sis! :)
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FreeCajun Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:40 PM
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107. Study Proves That Ignorance Is Bliss, News at 11 n/t
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Tenn Iconoclast Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 04:29 PM
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115. That is beautiful! n/t
Printing and saving for when I feel down (which is a lot
lately).
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:02 PM
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118. Welcome to the DU Family, Tenn Iconoclast!
Just remember that from today forward, when you're feeling down, you can always find a good listener, advice, consolation, and hopefully a lot of laughs right here at HOME!

:hi:
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MNWild Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:01 PM
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119. I must have got a little something in my eye while reading your post
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 06:03 PM by MNWild
:cry: :blush:

To me, you can boil it down to a simple question. Do I deserve a standard if living that exceeds what I believe others deserve? The Bush cult members think that it's a dog eat dog world, and if you can steal another dogs bones without getting chewed up, then that's the way it should be. (Surprisingly, in this regard, they seem to believe in survival of the "fittest", but evolution theory is bad??). Or they believe that they have been "blessed" with more, because God loves them more. I, and most who exercise their minds here, seem to believe that all humans deserve equal opportunity and access to the necessities of life. George Will may never understand that nothing he has done in his life entitles him to "earn" 100-500 times the money that a single parent struggling to hold down 2 jobs and provide for a family does. Our happiness can not be complete while others suffer. Somehow through ignorance or greed, theirs apparently can.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:27 PM
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120. Well said, MNWild!
"Our happiness can not be complete while others suffer. Somehow, through ignorance or greed, theirs apparently can."

You just boiled my rather lengthy letter down to a few extremely well-chosen words.

I'm glad you're a DU poster, and hope that continues. But you SHOULD be writing speeches for our elected Democrats. It's a rare talent that is able to make such an honest, to-the-point statement with such poetic ease!


:applause:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:43 PM
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121. His nasty opinion was in yesterday's paper here too
PLEASE send your letter to the AZ Daily Star too!!!!


GREAT JOB! (one typo at the top: "actually, it made be quite happy" should be "me")


Link for guest column tips and contact: http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/opinion/64476
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:00 PM
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123. "HAPPY" to be the 68th recommendation!
That's the most satisfying read I've had all day! Beautifully done, Nancy! :applause: :patriot:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:49 PM
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127. woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!
the neocons are happy to wreck the world...............
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:14 PM
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131. Very well written
I would think that the WaPo might consider publishing it. You should send it in.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:31 PM
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132. The smug are happier than the empathetic.
This is HUGH!1!1!!11.

--IMM
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:03 PM
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133. Thank you -- That was AWESOME
Nancy, you made my day.
:yourock:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:24 PM
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134. la, la and a skip to
:kick:

:)

feeling good.
dp
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