Christian rioters kill and burn 146

[Benfea]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/02/23/nigeria.riots.reut/index.html

So where are the conservative hand-wringers demanding that Christians everywhere put a stop to this? Where are the conservative hand-wringers implying that this behavior is indicative of the 1+ billion Christians in the world?

[AlamoDemoc]

1. Article goes on to say...

"Christians attacked Muslims with cutlasses, destroyed their houses and torched mosques in two days of violence in Onitsha, where at least 93 people have died."

<snip>

"We are very happy that this thing is happening so that the north will learn their lesson," said Anthony Umai, a motorcycle taxi rider, standing close to where Christian youths had piled up the corpses of 10 Muslims and were burning them."


Your question here was well answered by Mr. Zogby's article published here this morning...which he wrote that Muslims are now a world wide target all round the world, which was similar to prior of WW2 with Jewery community in Europe and Hitler's propaganda.


on double edit: bad connection coupled with bad spelling

[Benfea]

3. So where's the hand-wringing? -NT

[AlamoDemoc]

7. I have my own thinking of Idealists

...and It has nothing to do with what christian journalists that write about Islam.


I think we are in violation of many thinking of white/christian journalists in the west...they never write anything that to do with: (1) humiliation of Arabs(2) arrest without charges of muslims and Arabs (3) occupation without a cause in Iraq (4) media hate of Arabs (6) attacks on muslim's faith (7) attack on muslim nations, and fear of who's next (8) the upcoming attack of Iran...etc, etc

[megatherium]

31. Funny you should mention the "Jewery community," while complaining about

anti-Muslim prejudice, since the Muslim world has no lack of anti-Jewish prejudice.

[acmejack]

2. Fanaticism of any stripe is doubly dangerous.

Misguided people doing what they perceive to be good works are determined and conscientious, always a nasty adversary.

[Benfea]

4. Oh I'm well aware of that.

Believe me, I have no love of religion of any sort.

I'm just curious when we're going to see FOX News using this to imply that all Christians are uncivilized. I mean, they're not hypocrites, are they?

[acmejack]

9. Faux? Never!

[sarcasmo]

5. Christian Taliban VS Muslim Taliban

Welcome to the destruction of civilization.

[LittleClarkie]

6. Same reason Saudi Arabia isn't a concern for supporting terrorism

they are very selective in their condemnation.

Perhaps if these poor folks had oil, then their would be condemnation. Otherwise, the Conservatives are just hoping you aren't looking too close.

[Igel]

8. But of course,

Xianity is a religion of peace. This are a few violent people that in no way represent the religion of tolerance that is Xianity.

I can fully understand them, although I can't condone the violence: The Xians in Nigeria issued a sort of apology and condemnation for the "blasphemous" cartoons, saying they didn't support their publication. Then, a few days later, churches are burned, a priest is killed, and 20-some Xians are chased down and beaten to death; some, including kids, are burned to death when their houses are set on fire.

You apologize and condemn the cartoons, and you get killed for it by a group of Muslims riled up by the sermon of peace and tolerance they heard in a mosque. But peaceful protests are the way to go, of course. The perception of weakness has always encouraged accommodation.

On the other hand, this has to be seen by all right-thinking people as mostly political, or perhaps tribal: the poor Xians are being manipulated by their leaders to engage in violence. One should see this is in no way a religious conflict.

The Muslim newspapers that I looked at yesterday eventually managed to fill in the gaps: the story about Iraq and Nigeria was just "a Shi'ite mosque was attacked, and in revenge 29 Sunni mosques were attacked and dozens of Sunnis killed;" in Nigeria, Xians killed, burned, and looted, and late in the articles was typically a quote with the word "revenge". Today they added the importance of the mosque, and the fact that the Nigerian violence was in response to Muslim violence. But for 24 hours, anybody getting their news just from the papers I read would have been forced to believe that Sunnis were being justly picked on.

[AlamoDemoc]

10. Of course Muslims were picked on

First off, you framed your thinking as it came from an article. I hope many here would see to it that it was an statement on your part and not an article.

With regard to Nigeria: The violent started on Christian areas, and not Muslim areas....whilst many mosques were burned, Muslims feel the brunt of it.

The issue is far from Muslim vs. Christians, but an uproar of Constitution....mainly to do with Pres. Obasanjo seeking a third presidential term, when he's barred from seeking a third therm constitutionally. Many Muslims feel they are untitled to have presidential candidacy after two term of Christian presidency in Nigeria.

Mind you, anyone, including the western media, including Mr. Obasanjo blames disorder, and lack of civil disobedience by the muslims...however the fact of the matter is that Mr. Obasanjo's lack of calling as non-candidate of the up-coming elections are and is trouble witin...that he'll not seek a third term of presidency, and his disregard of Nigeria's Constitution is what is fueling this uprising...and not religion.

[The Magistrate]

11. And So When Did It Start, Sir?

Violence between Hausa and Ibo has been going on for generations. It would be a bold fellow, in my view, who would claim to pick a starting date any time within the last several years, let alone weeks....

[AlamoDemoc]

15. Why didn't understand my point? are you opposite of truth?

You should re-read my posted.

Nigerian people were ruled by many dictatorial supports by the US and Europe...until they realized that members of all populace can benefit from oil burse-benefit and promotion of democracy.

Then was Constitution rendered within, that a president can't seek re-election after two term.

Now is what is an issue: Will Mr. Obasango follow the connstituation...or will he continue to be ruler and men before him as dictators and seek a third "un-constitutional" election of presidency?


This is the issue in Nigeria...this is the issue separating between christian and Muslims in Nijera....the constitution should remind the Nigerian president to step down

[The Magistrate]

16. This Is Only The Most Recent Form, Sir

That the underlaying violence has taken. That violence long pre-dates even colonial acquisition of Nigeria.

[AlamoDemoc]

17. Sir...have you been following elections in Nigeria?

refrain bothering me with your North-American political positivity until you can fathom with realities taken place out there...in AFRICA

[The Magistrate]

18. What A Charming Request, Sir

Anything else you wish me to refrain from, while we are on the subject? Anything you would care to propose you refrain from bothering me with, while we are at it?

[DavidDvorkin]

12. Obviously, those aren't real Christians

Isn't that a standard reply?

Any Christian who does something nasty is redefined as not a real Christian, thereby keeping Christianity pure and clean and above all reproach.

[Benfea]

13. Conservatives just can't stay away from logical fallacies, can they?

Just for the record, this one is called the No True Scotsman fallacy.

[DavidDvorkin]

14. I like that illustration

[jonnyblitz]

20. it's not just conservatives that do it...

it happens here at DU all the time. On any given day you can read posted here stuff like " Bush isn't a real christian" or "Fred Phelps isn't a real christian".

[Benfea]

22. They're real Christians all right.

And there's plenty more like that in the history books. :(

[Pryderi]

19. Looks like the "hoodlum vote" to me...

[AlamoDemoc]

21. Sir..I would want you for once to challenge me on open DU

with African politics an without pointing on to DU as you are not want to told one who called on the article

[Benfea]

23. I'm not commenting on African politics.

My post is not in any way about African politics.

My post is about he inherent hypocrisy of American conservatives (a.k.a. "protofascists"). If this story involved non-Christians rather than Christians, the Republicans would be on every message board on the Internet declaring "See? See what savages they all are?"

[NJmaverick]

24. This story will not be aired

No way will the Muslim hating media run a story like this

[IronLionZion]

30. It was aired on CNN and BBC

I saw it last night in fact on the headline news channel.

It won't be aired during a primetime slot, nor Fascist News.

[mitchum]

25. Giving this one a good ol' atheist kick

[DarienComp]

26. this is all just so sad to me

:cry:

[IronLionZion]

27. That's not very Christian

but there are deeper forces at work in Nigeria. It's not simply a religious conflict, and it's definitely NOT a recent development at all.

As a Christian and a human being, I condemn this violence.

[Shelor]

28. Still waiting for Pat Robertson to condemn this one.

[Terran1212]

29. Hopefully some people realize THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION

This is about poor and oppressed people lashing out.

Do you think the watts riots or LA riots happened simply because the people were black?

Terrible social conditions create terrible behavior. It's the most basic of sociology.

[Wilms]

32. K&R n/t