Look at this map, and you'll see the REAL reason for the deal

[Lerkfish]

can the UAE be any MORE strategically placed to attack Iran?

[Inland]

1. Is Bush trading our security to go off on a tangent, again?

Bush decides on war against Iraq. Bush needs resources and help. Bush makes deals in order to divert resources dedicated to homeland security and killing Alqaeda for his war on Iraq.

Bush decides that Iran is much like Iraq. Rinse, repeat.

UAE is getting its pay for helping Bush in his Iran war. The pay is in the form of our security.

[Lerkfish]

2. yup, you got it in one.

sick, isn't it?

[Lin]

4. yup-and his still unashamed cheerleaders run to find their pompoms.(em)

[Inland]

5. Fox has already b'cast its Iran War Cartoon.

Months ago, the graphics showing the types of attacks we could have on Iran. Animated planes swooping over the mountains and plateaus, orange plumes, and guess what? No adverse fallout depicted.

[Minnesota Libra]

3. It's all about the oil - easy acess to water ways, and those......

.....all important military bases so the entire area can be controlled. Guess what?? Bush and Co ALL have huge interests in oil, military equipment production, shipping, and other related industries.

Most of all though, with all the above ducks in a row, the switch from the dollar to the euro can be controlled and limited so Bush and Co doesn't miss out on one penny. Never mind that our whole country may well be in the middle of a decades long depression by then. Bush and Co certainly won't feel it.

[norml]

6. Nonsense! The real reason for the deal is $$$.

The UAE wouldn't be part of any attack on Iran.

The UAE isn't needed for an attack on Iran.

The bases in Iraq are closer to Iran, and larger than any facilities we might use in the UAE.

This "We need the UAE for an attack on Iran" is just more Kool Aid for the Fweepers to get them to swallow this port deal as part of their being brainwashed into thinking we need to go to war with Iran.

It's also part of "If we only knew what the Great Leader knows then we would know how brilliant their seemingly stupid decisions are".

[Lerkfish]

7. did you just accuse me of being a freeper"?

if so, pound sand.

however, to your point: are you forgetting the aircraft carriers we have in the persian gulf? they have to dock somewhere.
You can't carry out an air attack from just Iraq.

[norml]

11. No, I said it was a Fweeper argument.

It was not my intention to imply that you were one of them.

Although our carriers wouldn't need to be docked at any port during operations, Iraq has the port of Basra, and you can carry out an air attack from just our bases in Iraq.

[Lerkfish]

16. I'm guessing you're not familiar with military strategy.

you need to launch from mulitple points.

[norml]

17. There are plenty of multiple points from which to launch without the UAE.

If you expand your map you'll see that.

[Lerkfish]

18. um...ok.

we've established you think my thread is nonsense... and accused me of using freeper arguments to put up a map and point out UAE's strategic importance....


maybe you should move on to other threads you can trash.

[norml]

19. That's not a refutation of there being multiple other launch points.

Also the UAE has much closer relations with Iran than they do with us.

They have no interest in being part of any Iran/USA war.

Just because I differ with your opinion on this, you shouldn't take it personally.

I think it's a worthy topic for discussion, since it's an explanation for the port deal that I've seen floated in many places other than this.

[acmejack]

8. Made me think of old times!

See the little island between the words Oman & Indian Ocean. That's Masirah Air Base. Very interesting place. We used to use it too, in the old days & looking at the site we still do, it is quite strategic in relationship to Iran, which is why we liked it so much in 79.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/masirah.htm

[screembloodymurder]

9. Control of the straights between Iran and UAE is crucial.

The oil is shipped through the those waters.

[norml]

13. And just how would having a base in the UAE keep those waters safe?

How would being based in the UAE do any more to prevent shipping from being sunk in the straits by Sunburn missiles than what we already have in the way of bases and carriers in that area?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

10. That's just crazy.

That's like saying these people would attack a country that hasn't done anything to us. Oh wait a minute.........

[Peace Patriot]

12. Of equal interest would be a map of the coast of the U.S. showing

just how much of it Cheney/Halliburton/UAE are going to have free reign over, for arms/drug smuggling/child slavery or whatever, cheap imported labor, busting of the Longshoreman's union (best union in the country) and other evil schemes. (Imported fundamentalist workers given citizenship to outvote native leftists on the coasts?)

Re: your map. I've no doubt some tat for U.S. taxpayer tit is going on. UAE bases would put Iran in a vise. And look at that little pointed stick of land right up to Iran's coast. Anybody know anything about the "Fujairah Emirate"?

[Peace Patriot]

15. Interesting basic rundown on UAE (including Fujairah--described

as "the Bride of the Emirates," trade route to everywhere else, with the east coast "the prettiest part of the country"--tot. pop. 80,000!*). Long history of US/UAE military, security and oily cooperation.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/uae.htm

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*(Could be Cheney's retirement village.)

[Doctor_J]

14. Isn't Khazakstan just to the NE of Iran?

Think Russia wants Smirk attacking that close to home? I wonder if Pooty-poot is on board with this?

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