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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:51 AM
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look at this crapoganda about Bush in Hindustan Times
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1635835,0035.htm

In early 1999, George W. Bush met with eight foreign policy advisors, collectively known as the Vulcans, in his ranch at Crawford, Texas. He was preparing for his White House bid. They were there to tell him about the world.

Well into the briefing, Bush interrupted: “Wait a minute. Why aren’t we talking about India?” The Vulcans — who included Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz — looked at each other. India didn’t matter, they explained.

Bush’s response: “You’re wrong.” He gave three reasons.

One, India was a democracy of one billion people and that was “just incredible.” It is a mantra he still chants with near reverence at the mention of India. Two, Indians were geniuses with software. No Vulcan knew what he was talking about. Three, “You all are going on about the need to balance China. You can’t do that without India.”

Bush later took aside two Vulcans, the present National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley and Bush’s first ambassador to India, Robert Blackwill. “If I am elected, I want a paper on how to transform the US-India relationship on my table before inauguration.”

In December 2000 Bush became US president-elect. He called in Hadley and Blackwill and demanded, “Where’s my paper on India?” They had forgotten. They spent Christmas in the White House reading up on this faraway country that the most powerful man in the world was so fixated on.

Bush’s first term was tumultuous for much of the world but advantageous to India. Funnily, these apposite experiences were for the same reason: Dubya was, as Rice once put it, “convinced that he hadn’t come here to leave the world the same way he found it.”

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It gets much, much worse.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:58 AM
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1. He also sculpted David, authored the Bible, and built the pyramids...
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 01:58 AM by DRoseDARs
...all by himself. Mommy wow! I'm a big kid now!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:58 AM
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2. Christ-O-Rama!....What utter bullshit!
I doubt the chimp could find India on a map right now.:rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:02 AM
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3. Yep, and for a simple reason!
You CANNOT have a PhD in Soviet Affairs and not know jack about India. They interrelated strongly over the years; what with India's nonaligned stance. India was critical to the Soviets for a considerable period.

So the whole thing is nonsense.

The only India that Monkey can find is the CAT!!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:20 AM
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5. That and the fact they actually had a long simmering
border "war" with china in the 60's......

Bush was probably thinking about Indianapplopolis.... As he would say... The race....

They have a Brazillian horse power there...
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:26 AM
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6. He thought Africa was a country.
Remember? :banghead:
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:14 AM
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4. this is a blatant attempt by the ruling brahmans in India to help soothe
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 02:14 AM by Raster
the hatred and anger the average Indians feel towards bush*. Policy paper my ass. The man doesn't even fucking read a newspaper much less a policy paper about India, or for that matter, any other country. Remember, this is the moron whose aides had to put together a DVD presentation on the devastation in New Orleans--HIS OWN FUCKING COUNTRY--so he could grasp the situation.

It would seem that in the coming global alignment, India's ruling class has thrown their weight behind America's ruling class. Gotta have that cheap labor, doncha know.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:35 AM
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7. first sentence is a lie
pig farm was bought for the '00 campaign - House wasn't finished until November, '00. I guess the 'vulcans' could have met in the pig barn.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:34 AM
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12. Good catch
:)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:40 AM
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18. That catch needs a thread of it's own
What a crock.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:43 AM
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8. what a load of codswallop-- the man knew NOTHING of foreign policy
then, and knows apparently less now. doubt he could SPELL india, much less find it on a map.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:33 AM
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9. Time for some DU feedback on this article, methinks.
Click on the little feedback link next to the article's first paragraph and send some DU knowledge to the Hindustan Times. I just did.

That entire article reads as if it was written by someone from the White House propaganda office and fed to a reporter. I guess American journalists aren't the only lazy ones.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:58 AM
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10. good idea, i'm going to ask them who they get their white house
talking points from!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:36 AM
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13. feedback did not work for me
:(
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:59 AM
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14. Try this -
Go down near the bottom of the page where it says "Surfer's feedback" and click on that (if you have a pop-up stopper on your computer, hold down your control key when you click). You'll then be taken to the feedback they've received so far - only 2 comments when I looked, and mine's the second one - and underneath the feedback comments is a link that says "Click here to post your views" (again, hold down the control key when you click if you have a pop-up stopper). It takes a few seconds for the comments box to open in a new window.

Hope this helps.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:11 AM
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15. thanks that helped :) nt
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:26 AM
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11. That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time....
I'm still laughing. It's funnier than anything "The Onion" could come up with. Karl Rove and Karen Hughes have outdone themselves writing this one.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:26 AM
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16. I think it was written for
what used to be called "the untouchables".. the vast uneducated mass of Indians who get their information from romance movies etc. It smacked of condescension
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:34 AM
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17. They fail to mention that the ranch wasn't completed in 1999
As has been mentioned many times, the movie set "ranch" was completed just before the 2000 election.

BUSTED
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:18 AM
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19. OMG! What a fairy tale!! Was there any magic dust?
The whole idea of Bush being in charge and asking them anything but "can I play with my gameboy now?!" is downright laughable!
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:30 AM
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20. India's economy is growing at a fast clip...
High oil prices are in part due to demand by India.

Do the math.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:34 AM
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21. The Hindustan Times has ALWAYS been a fluffer of the Bewsh Admin . .
I think it's because of his pro-corporation and pro-uber-wealthy stance of screwing the American middle class over (which he cares about only when he needs votes. After that's done . . . PFFFFFT!) and giving this country and China the jobs that Americans previously held.

The HT praises him and finger-wags the American middle class for being worried, mostly championing the zero-sum capitalist talking points of "it's better for you in the long run". Only problem with that is corporations are also giving India and China "the long run" by setting up R&D and letting them get the jump on Nano and Bio-tech.

I've read many grave-dancing articles written by the schmucks of this paper.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:55 AM
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22. What about India?
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 08:55 AM by baldguy
What about Poland?
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:02 AM
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23. The laughter hurts my sides! Did * make sure he had his rubber ears
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 09:02 AM by Feles Mala
for the Vulcan meeting? Instead of Vulcan, they should have referenced, as * or Tim Treadwell might say, "...that Hindu floaty thing..."

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:20 AM
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24. Unfortunately, he succeeded in this beyond his wildest dreams
"Dubya was, as Rice once put it, “convinced that he hadn’t come here to leave the world the same way he found it.”


This is garbage - I doubt Bush had any idea who was writing software. (I'm on my best behavior here, not saying he might not even know what software was.)
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:24 AM
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25. Two words: 1. Covert 2. Propaganda
Our country plants press stories in Iraq, why not India?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:35 AM
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26. I guess there are media hos in other countries besides the US. nt
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:42 AM
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27. Yeah, I'm sure this guy will have front row access at every stop.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:50 AM
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28. kick to catapult!
Daytimers, check this out.
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