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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:46 AM
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Are there *any* Republicans left with honor and integrity?
I was driving home last evening thinking about the crimes the Wafia has committed; out and out laws broken by Bush and his minions.

Election theft 2000 and 2004
LIHOP (MIHOP)
Iraqi war lies
Torture and murder of Iraqi civilians
Exposing a covert US intelligence operation to the enemy
Spying on Americans
Selling seaport operations to a terrorist nation
and on and on...

But GOPers are spinning these crimes like they are inconsequential! When was the last time you heard, read or saw an avowed Republican show concern or even remorse at what the United States has become under their "leadership?"

How many GOPers chided Clinton as not being "trustworthy" and "honorable" but have completely overlooked their party's crimes?

The Wafia is comprised of thugs and cutthoats, criminals of the worse kind since they use confidence schemes.

It's not about politics, lurking GOPers, it's about honor and integrity and your party is corrupt to the core!

When I arrived home I had a stiff Scotch...
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:48 AM
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1. no
sorry
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:54 AM
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2. Greedworshippers with honor and integrity?
Fascists with honor and integrity?
I wonder how that would work.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:56 AM
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3. Ron Paul (TX)... he has his own crazy ideas in some ways,
but he speaks out against the Bush admin on many issues. He is really a Libertarian, but to win in Texas, he runs as a Republican. His speech "Neo-conned" is a excellent: http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm

Here is his reply to my inquiry on the port deal:

Thank you for contacting my office regarding the recent decision by the Bush Administration to approve a state-controlled United Arab Emirates company taking over operations at six major U.S. ports.

I share your outrage over this decision, particularly as the Administration did not even bother to consult with Congress or the U.S. states involved.

I am pleased to inform you that I have sent a letter to Rep. Mike Oxley, the Chairman of the Financial Services Committee, requesting a full congressional investigation of this decision. As I serve on this Committee, which has oversight functions over the Treasury Department, I can assure you that I will seek answers from and share your concerns with any witnesses from the Administration.

As most of these ports are actually owned by U.S. states and municipalities, I strongly support those governors who have indicated that they do not intend to allow the federal government to dictate to them who will run their ports. I hope the Texas state government would display the same determination to resist a potentially dangerous federal dictate regarding the running of our ports should we face a similar move in the future.

Sincerely,

Ron Paul

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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:44 PM
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20. "He is really a Libertarian, but to win in Texas, he runs as a Republican"
A Libertarian is just a Republican with additional personality disorders.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:08 PM
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21. There are some good things about Libertarians...
They tend to support civil liberties, and less government interference in personal lives. Yes, some of their ideas are wacko, like no child labor laws, but at least they won't line up to accept fascism like the current breed of Repugs.
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:17 PM
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22. That's the party line,
I've known too many Libertarians. Press them and you invariably find a paradox (Some might call it a hypocrisy. Hell, I might call it a hypocrisy, but I'm feeling uncharacteristically generous today, so "paradox" it is.)

They're all, in the end, control freaks. It's not written into the party line, but that's what they all turn out to be IRL. The only personal lives they really don't want interfered with are THEIR personal lives.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:58 AM
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4. Short answer. No.
Long answer. Hell no.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:59 AM
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5. If they have integrity, they tend to be wingnuts.
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:13 PM
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6. The only good Republicans are dead Republicans
Like Abraham Lincoln, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Barry Goldwater, Teddy Roosevelt -- the only ones with any integrity are long dead. And with a few exceptions (like Murtha) you can just about say the same for the Democrats!
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:18 PM
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7. Paul Craig Roberts ....
former Reaganite who slams Bush with the best of them ... here's how he starts one of his articles entitled "Unhappy With One Quagmire, Bush Looks for Another"

March 8, 2005
Unhappy With One Quagmire, Bush Looks for Another

by Paul Craig Roberts
How much longer can American prestige survive the embarrassments inflicted by President Bush?

....

http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=5104



read and listen to him and he is a Republican with honor and integrity
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:19 PM
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8. I would be more interested in finding some Dems with honor and integrity
I'm talking about those in leadership positions, of course. I know there are plenty of rank-and-file members, and non party members who identify with the Dems, who have honor and integrity to spare. Then again, I know there are plenty of rank-and-file Republicans who have those same qualities in abundance, too.

Why is that we consistently fail to elect people who reflect our values?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:22 PM
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10. *cough* Bullshit *cough*
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:39 PM
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13. Please, elaborate. n/t
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:01 PM
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15. There's not much to elaborate.
Your statement, beginning to end, was total bullshit. It could not be more wrong.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:39 PM
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25. Ah, I see. So you would say instead...
I wrote:
I'm talking about those in leadership positions, of course. I know there are plenty of rank-and-file members, and non party members who identify with the Dems, who have honor and integrity to spare. Then again, I know there are plenty of rank-and-file Republicans who have those same qualities in abundance, too.

Why is that we consistently fail to elect people who reflect our values?


So you would assert that there are NO rank-and-file members of the Democratic party and NO non-party members who identify with the Dems with honor and integrity to spare. So then, who does have honor and integrity?

You further assert that I know of NO rank-and-file Republicans who have honor and integrity. In what way? Do you mean to state that I am outright lying?

Lasty, you assert that we do NOT consistently fail to elect people who reflect our values. Do you mean to say that the large number of people who get so frustrated at the way many Democrats in Congress kow-tow to the GOP agenda should shut up and make no noise that might bring the party back towards their values?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:42 PM
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26. .....
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

You damn well know what I mean.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:13 PM
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24. I like the graphic....that's pretty cool!!!
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:29 PM
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18. Simple answer: the voting machines
"Why is it that we consistently fail to elect people who reflect our values?"

Because it doesn't matter anymore what a candidate says or believes about government, only whether the voting machines will tilt his way, in other words, whether or not he's a Repub and preferably a far right Repub (the voting machines really like this kind of Repub).

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:44 PM
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19. That certainly explains the Cantwell, Lieberman, Hillary and the rest
:sarcasm:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:21 PM
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9. Being that you live in Kansas, you should be telling us, not asking
Are any of your friends or neighbors honorable?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:46 PM
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14. I don't know...My friends are progressives; either Dem or Indy
As for the Repubs, I have not seen or heard anyone admit that Bush needs to be held accountable for his actions. They will most likely claim it's all "politics," but Bush has broken laws. Politics aside, he is guilty of law-breaking.

As for public figures, we mustn't forget that there were some Dems who openly criticized Clinton (if I recall correctly), and what Bush has done makes what Clinton did look like a kiss from an aunt at a church picnic. So where is the "outrage" form GOP public officials?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:02 PM
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16. You live in Kansas and you don't have Republican friends or neighbors?
How do you manage that one? Even when I lived in Massachusetts, I knew plenty of Republicans, and it hardly gets more liberal than up there.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:16 PM
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17. I don't know my "neighbors" well enough to query them of their politics...
I don't walk up to them, offer my hand and say, "Hi! I'm your neighbor! Do you think Bush should be impeached?!"

About a year ago there was one former neighbor who came by to visit a mutual neighbor. He saw me in my yard and came over to exchange pleasantries. After the usual salutations, (for some reason) Bush came up as a topic. He strongly defended having Bush in the White House because of all the terrorists that were out to get us. He even went so far as to suggest it was through "divine intervention" that Bush was made POTUS. I quickly bade him farewell and thought how fortunate I was that he moved away.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:25 PM
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11. I assume you are talking about elected officials...
I have many friends and relatives who are Republicans who have integrity.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:39 PM
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12. Elected officials AND those who support them...
Its painfully obvious by now that Bush is a criminal in that he had broken many laws. No matter how the GOP congress or his attorney general spins it; he HAS broken laws. Period. So where's the accountability?

So where is the outrage from the GOP rank and file?

Politics aside, I would think that those Republicans who criticized Clinton would be even more critical of Bush. After all, the GOP has billed itself the "party of honor and integrity." It's a hard role to live up to, put once you declare yourself to have more "morals," than the other party, you need to put up or shut up, even when it doesn't bode well for your party.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:06 PM
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23. The last truly great Republican
was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth
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