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Mon Apr-03-06 02:43 AM
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I guess I trained my daughter to well. |
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My daughter told me that she was at college, the other day, and the Green Party approached her and asked her and her friends to sign a partition to get a Green Party candidate on the ballot for next November.
She told them there no way she or any of her friends would sign such a patition. Told them the Green Party was taking away voted from Dems. Sounds like she gave the guy hell.
The funny thing is I don't remember telling her all that. I'm sure I said it though.
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Mon Apr-03-06 02:46 AM
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If the Green Party were viable, then it'd be another story altogether, but for now all they are - are spoilers. Any vote for a Green leaves us with a de facto vote for a republi-CON. And ANY WAY you look at it, that is just plain BAD. One vote for a Green is one less vote for a Dem.
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Mon Apr-03-06 02:50 AM
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Mon Apr-03-06 02:53 AM
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Mon Apr-03-06 02:54 AM
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4. Who is she to speak for her friends? |
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You should tell her to start a petition demanding the dems become electable again.
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Mon Apr-03-06 02:57 AM
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5. The Greens gave us Dumbya - period. No other way to dress THAT turkey. |
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Good for your daughter - she probably learned through observing you. Obviously setting a good example !!!!
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Mon Apr-03-06 03:43 AM
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6. Sure there is - stuff a computer with programmed votes n/t |
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Mon Apr-03-06 06:53 AM
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12. It wasn't 'programmed votes' that gave us Bush |
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it was 90,000 votes for Nader in Florida.
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Mon Apr-03-06 08:21 AM
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the Bush enablers in congress still won't hear the message and vote for wars and bankruptcy bills and the like. If they would fight this guy there would be no green party to worry about.
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Mon Apr-03-06 09:27 AM
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21. You bet, "protest" votes that destroyed the country |
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corrupted and co-opted the governmental process, killed over 2300 of our mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, sons and daughters, brought 10's of thousands back to us broken and maimed, and killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of innocents, all in the name of a "protest' vote.
Fuck the third parties. You gave us Bush and you killed Democracy.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:
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Tue Apr-04-06 04:56 AM
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29. And those who have checked the data agree |
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Edited on Tue Apr-04-06 04:56 AM by nadinbrzezinski
Gore won... IN SPITE of those votes, so why don't you go complaint to the right people... the United States Supreme Court that ordered a vote count stopped when the Florida Supreme Court ordered it to continue....
Historians will have lots of fun when they finally write the history and how Muricans were deluded into blaming somebody else. WE the people should have taken to the streets in massive numbers right after the delay Brooks Brothers enforcers hit the ground in Florida. Yet we had never experienced a coup, and that is EXACTLY what happened. Now stop blaming Nader and blame the correct folks... or this will HAPPEN AGAIN.
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Mon Apr-03-06 09:19 AM
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20. reTHUG-lite gave rise to the green party but the SCOTUS gave us da neoCONs |
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and BBV selected them for a 2nd time.
but it is always easier to have and outsider to scapegoat, eh...
peace
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Mon Apr-03-06 10:18 AM
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22. the Greens didn't give us smirk, rigged voting gave us smirk |
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Tue Apr-04-06 07:04 AM
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The greens didn't give us W, the lame ass Democratic party that tried to corporatize themselves and pretend to be republican-lite gave us the need for a third party.
When will the Democrats grow some ovaries and accept that they fucked up. Don't blame Nader, blame your party.
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Mon Apr-03-06 04:04 AM
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Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 04:07 AM by AtomicKitten
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Mon Apr-03-06 04:09 AM
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Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 04:14 AM by Jazz2006
...seems to me it would have been better to teach her to be able to articulate why a vote for the Democrat candidate is a good idea rather than defaulting to silly vote splitting nonsense.
It's a big problem these days, teaching kids to vote "against" something (anything) rather than "for" the Democrats.
Personally, I think it's better to teach kids that the Democratic party is the best choice, rather than teaching them merely that it's the lesser of two evils.
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Mon Apr-03-06 06:55 AM
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13. That 'silly vote splitting nonsense' gave us bush. |
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Mon Apr-03-06 08:27 AM
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Tue Apr-04-06 12:37 AM
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I haven't figured out the emoticons yet or i'd toast back.
oh wait, i think i've got it
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Tue Apr-04-06 08:56 AM
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...do not hesitate to ask- everyone is very helpful :hi: :D
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Mon Apr-03-06 04:57 PM
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Tue Apr-04-06 12:38 AM
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thanks for the warm welcome and slainte to you:
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Mon Apr-03-06 05:51 AM
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10. What you did was teach her to think! |
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Since she is free to think for her self, she most likely came to the conclusion that the Green Party steals votes from the Democrats.
It feels good when your kids grow up and you know they are thinking on their own. It feels really good when they come to the conclusions you expect from them.
I know that feeling, my daughter is in Florida to go to school and she talks a lot about the liberal messages she sees on bumper stickers and t-shirts.
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Mon Apr-03-06 06:38 AM
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11. You trained her to think as I did with my kids and it is GREAT to see..... |
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.....them put those skills to work later. But I know what you mean about this thing of "I didn't teach you all that, where did you get all that?". Then they launch into this explanation of how their decision/attitude came about. Sometimes I'm actually amazed at my kids.:loveya:
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Mon Apr-03-06 09:01 AM
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19. It may have been more instrumental, given that she had the time |
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to talk in greater detail what this candidate stood for... perhaps the democrat could incorporate some of the green's agenda.
No disrespect but it's never cool to irritate a party (Greens), who in essence, shares many of our democratic ideals.
We need to bring them IN with us - we need to entertain SOME of their proposals?
Win the Greens Over ... the 2000 election was wrong for many reasons. Let's forgive and recruit the greens to take over the DINO slots?
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Mon Apr-03-06 07:41 AM
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14. I have a question. What ballot in November was this in reference to? |
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My dispute with Nader was that he didn't start his campaign at the grass roots level, he just popped himself to the presidential ballot based on his fame. So if the example you are talking about is just such grass roots activity, I have no problem with it. I also have no problem with your daughter expressing her preference for the Dem Party because I feel the same way. But we can't condemn the Greens or any party for that matter that wish to start a grass roots effort as a platform for their ideas. That's called democracy and what they are doing is in the spirit of democracy, much as we here at DU disagree with their views.
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Mon Apr-03-06 08:39 AM
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Stop encouraging third parties cause God knows the two we have are wonderful. I am so sick of this "green party blame game" some ignorant Democrats still want to hang onto. It has become like the Republican mantra of blaming Clinton. If the Democrats stopped being Bush-light and the DLC finally woke the hell up, perhaps, just perhaps the Green party wouldn't have been that attractive in the first place.
Rock on third parties. As long as out of touch Dems still don't realize that it was a failure on part of their leadership and not the Greens fault, we will never get Bush out. At least own the weaknesses of the Democratic party and don't be as blind as the republicans are to their's.
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Tue Apr-04-06 04:34 AM
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27. I'm with you, and actually if the dems don't step into the |
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breach soon, (no before anybody defends them they have not), we will see a historic shift within a generation or less.
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Mon Apr-03-06 08:52 AM
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18. Would that be a primary or logical partition? |
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Tue Apr-04-06 04:35 AM
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28. What she runs on Linux? |
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Tue Apr-04-06 04:24 AM
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26. Could it be she found out for herself? nt |
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Tue Apr-04-06 05:39 AM
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30. Sounds like she need to pay more attention to politics |
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Edited on Tue Apr-04-06 05:43 AM by depakid
Last I heard a substantial number of Dems punted on both Roberts and Alito- throwing her reproductive freedom into doubt. And they voted to further cut her and friends student aid and raise the interest rates on their student loans. And that was just in the last 10 weeks.
Yep- the Dems have really shown that they're willing to stand up and fight for her and her friends, lately. Better make damn sure that no Greens ever get on the ballot to raise those issues, or someone might potentially be held accountable for voting with Republicans and enabling their policies.
Can't have that.
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