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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:49 AM
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Please DU this Lou Dobbs immigration poll!
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 11:58 AM by harlinchi
It is found at:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

It asks:


Who do you believe has the most influence over U.S. immigration policy?

President Bush.........4%....488 votes

President Fox..........9%...1273 votes

Congress................5%....719 votes

Corporate America...75%..10227 votes

American citizens......7%....991 votes

Total 13698 votes



As in most crime, examining who benefits goes a long way toward determining who committed the crime.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:51 AM
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1. Done
Who do you believe has the most influence over U.S. immigration policy?

President Bush 4% 489 votes

President Fox 9% 1280 votes

Congress 5% 724 votes

Corporate America 75% 10306 votes

American citizens 7% 995 votes
Total: 13794 vote
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:40 PM
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6. Done. Actually I'm impressed that MOST people realize Corporate America
is in control. There are ALWAYS going to be a few idiots out there.:eyes:

Who do you believe has the most influence over U.S. immigration policy?

President Bush 4% 501 votes

President Fox 9% 1306 votes

Congress 5% 744 votes

Corporate America 75% 10602 votes

American citizens 7% 1018 votes
Total: 14171 votes


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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:17 PM
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10. If you haven't seen the Magistrate's take on this issue
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 09:26 AM
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11. I read it, Sir or Madam, and was impressed, as usual.
I don't recognize many by name on this forum but The Magistrate is one exception.

These people are in a mood that allows them to be reached by the traditional economic arguments of the left; they are open to the idea that the "Free Market" damned sure does not work to their benefit as working people.

What is called the free market here does not exist. When one of the factors of production controls the supply of another, that other ceases to be a factor of production. When capital controls the supply of labor then labor has become a sub-entity of capital.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 02:42 PM
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12. Thanks! I read it. what I don't get is WHY they haven't learned this
lesson in the past? Every single time rules, regulations, and laws have been "relaxed" employers have caused total havoc on society. Why is this a lesson the "right" cannot get?

This is THE issue that almost always ends up turning the tables at the polls but for the life of me I cannot figure out why they keep putting the "trickle down" party back in power over and over again!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:51 AM
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2. Corporate America!
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:57 AM
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3. BAM!
Who do you believe has the most influence over U.S. immigration policy?

President Bush 4% 489 votes

President Fox 9% 1280 votes

Congress 5% 724 votes

Corporate America 75% 10306 votes

American citizens 7% 995 votes
Total: 13794 votes
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:00 PM
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4. LOL... corporate america has the most influence over ALL lawmaking!
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:31 PM
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5. Done. Can you believe someone chose something other than corporate
America? Wow.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 03:58 PM
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7. Looks like a lot of people "get" it. And I think it's funny only 4%
believe Bush has any influence. Well, ok, that number may be a little high, but Bush always has his loyal 4%.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 04:00 PM
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8. I don't think it's corporate America that is hiring illegals.
And the correct answer is "c", Congress. It is Congress that writes the laws.

Now, who hires undocumented workers? I don't think it's Wal-Mart and General Motors. More likely to be Tapatio's Mexican Restaurant, Manny's Landscaping, and El Cheapo Janitorial Services.
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harlinnchi Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 06:36 PM
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9. Corporate America only hires the contractors who hire the contractors...
...who hire the illegal aliens. We shouldn't punish the people here illegally; we should punish those who hire them. Do you assert that there is no corporate involvement in construction? Agribusiness has no corporate involvement? Congress answers to the corporations. No, the correct answer is corporate America has more influence over just about everything. Pension reform. Social Security reform. Environment reform. Immigration reform. Medicare reform. In every instance, policy problems are seen by the GOP as further reasons to rape the treasury and the corporate world benefits at the expense of Americans.

And didn't I hear something about Wal-Mart being accused of locking illegals in their stores overnight -- for security purposes?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 03:10 PM
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13. Corporate America has paid congress to change
the laws and effect the inforcement of existing laws to allow them to hire the illegals and the smaller companies that employ illegals.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 03:12 PM
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14. So is Lou going to mention that his own poll
indicates that his beloved Corporate America is influencing US policy? He will have to pooh-pooh it.
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