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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:10 AM
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Okay, it's tinfoil hat time. (is Brian Doyle being set up?)
Is it in the realm of possibility that this guy is being set up?
They are saying he confessed already, so maybe not.

I just don't trust anything the cable news shows say anymore.
What if the guy was going to blow the whistle? and they needed to discredit him fast?
I know, it's a wild stretch, but I just thought that I would put it out there.
What would be a better way to totally discredit a person, and I would not put it past these criminals.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:15 AM
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1. yeah but
the article i read said they showed up at his house and he was on the computer with the 14 y/o (cop). A little to much evidence to be just a fake.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:18 AM
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2. He also used his work computer and cell phone
And he's confessed.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:20 AM
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3. The first thing that I though when I heard it was related to kiddie porn,
was the excuse that the bush regime gave for it's incredible request of AOL, Yahoo, Google and other search engines for millions of randomly selected days of searches just to catch those looking at child pornography but even the FReepers saw through that one and had ideas on how, if honest, the search for those googling kiddie porn could be narrowed down. And why aren't they going after the producers of the child pornography or for that matter the child sex slave industry which is bigger than the illegal drugs industry. The FBI does not even keep statistics on how many children go missing every year.

The bush regime going after Google in court who objected to this fishing expedition and the violation of privacy is, I believe, another attempt to get people used to the bush police state.

This high profile case seems very fishy to me.
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:36 AM
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4. I smell a rat
It sounds like entrapment to start with but also the flaming religious right may use this as entree to all our computers to "protect the children". Also all over the tube tonight was that boy who used a webcam and got into a sex ring. It's all too convenient. They'll do anything to curtail our browsing. Too many breathless talking heads and too many stories focused on unattended children going to sites they shouldn't in the last few months.
Rumsfeld would like nothing better than to have propaganda 24/7 all over the internet. What will we tell the children is always their excuse. What's next, all internet activities must adhere to Christian Broadcast Network "standards" of what's appropriate?
I'd like some stats on how many kids are actually getting caught up in situations with pedophiles and if it's such a huge gigantic problem that we parents aren't aware of I'd like some Public Education on it in schools and on television. If it is indeed an epidemic, the solution is in education, not in clamping down on computers.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:02 AM
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8. And charge the parents with Endangering a Child or similar, after
all, they should have controlled her access. When they scream "protect the children", we should ask why not prosecute the parents? If she wasn't old enough to be doing what she was doing (I know, in this case it was a cop pretending to be 14) then shouldn't the parent have monitored the child's behaviour? How is this less abusive or negligent than a parent who doesn't feed their child or leaves them home alone for 3 weeks while they take a trip or something?

The boy who was at the hearings - he went to live with his dad in Mexico, who set him up with more camera gear and hired prostitutes - the boy's own father.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:47 AM
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5. naw

But we're going to find out that he was running a one man sting operation on the net to find people wrongfully posing as 14 year old virgins. All in the name of winning the War on Terror, of course.

:D
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:18 AM
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6. I agree with you, Check12. It is NOT tinfoil hat to suspect the Bush
junta of elaborate lies in the cause of covering up their crimes and making scads of money, and to destroy opposition, dissent, witnesses or whistleblowers any way they can. It is NOT tinfoil hat to suspect the war profiteering corporate news monopolies of repeating and promotiing all kinds of elaborate lies and deceit. And any cops who "work with" Homeland Security (an office of which was involved in this sting) also have to be held in suspicion.

And when did we start believing cops' accusations before there is even a trial? And when did we start believing CONFESSIONS before we know the circumstances of the alleged confession?

This story smells. The man gave out his real name and real photo, and his work cell phone number, and ID'd himself as working for Homeland Security to someone he is accused of THINKING was a child (but was really an undercover cop). 1. It was entrapment. He did not actually molest anyone, even in the published accounts. 2. His behavior makes no sense--unless he is suicidal (and, if he is, we don't know why).

The man is merely accused of something. So was Capt. James Yee. So was John McCain. So was Max Cleland. So was Sibel Edmonds. So was John Kerry. So was Joseph Wilson. So was Richard Clarke. So was Scot Ritter. So was Kevin Shelley.

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. The Bush junta is in meltdown. They are capable of anything.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:18 AM
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7. Yeah, he was set up by
the FBI sting operation that was catching pedophiles.
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