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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:40 PM
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A simple point why Kerry should be the nominee
Isn't he the only candidate other than Dean that has said no to federal matching funds? This would allow him to spend as much money as he can earn and combat Bush's $200 million.

No other candidate can do that other than Dean and Dean is crippled.

It's all about the money. period.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:41 PM
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1. yup
in the end, money rules.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:42 PM
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2. I have given and will continue to give money to Dean.
The only thing Kerry MIGHT get is my vote.
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:49 PM
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12. Dean seems to have no problem raising money
Just keeping his shit together.

But I'll gladly vote for him AND give him money if he gets the nom.
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:43 PM
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3. "It's all about the money. period."
Yeah, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. :eyes:
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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:46 PM
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7. you have to get elected
You have to play the rules of the game until the rules change.

Too much is at stake to fuck around.

We can't have Bush another four years.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:43 PM
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4. And Kerry should have no trouble raising money
once he nears the nomination. As much as I like Clark and Edwards, they can't compete with Bush financially.
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:44 PM
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5. I'll stick by the best man
to actually BE the President: Wes Clark.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:45 PM
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6. This isn't a good enough..
reason to vote for anyone.

In fact, it makes me less inclined to want to vote for him.

NONE of our candidates will raise as much money as Bush, not even close. So, if money is the issue, Bush will win. Period.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:46 PM
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8. Dean is crippled?
So the $3 million in new donations the past 2 weeks must be for medical expenses, right?

Rumors of Dean being crippled are greatly exaggerated.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:48 PM
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9. Dean isn't crippled.
I'm a Kerry supporter, but Dean isn't out of it by any means. He has money, organization, and staying power. We're only antagonizing the Dean supporters by repeating this, after only two primaries.
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:48 PM
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10. I think you may be wrong. Swing voters are probably more important and
Clark can deliver more than Kerry.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:49 PM
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11. Many other powerful reasons that Kerry should be the nominee
money isn't everything.
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:49 PM
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13. Sorry
That argument didn't work when it came from Dean supporters when he was the front runner and it sure ain't gona work now from Kerry supporters.

Besides, my understanding is the spending limits agreed by the candidates (ex. Dean and Kerry) only affect the primaries. When the GE comes around, the nominees can agree to join matching funds or opt out . . . so this whole idea is moot anyway.

I think a simple point why Kerry shouldn't be the nominee is that he's snooze central. He's got a good show with excellent supporting acts (Cleland, some good vet stories, etc.), but when the lights turn up on Kerry, it's nappy time.
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:53 PM
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14. I would vote for him in the GE, but I would not give him a penny.
Others like me that have or will give money may not be willing to do so for Kerry. And I have voted for the guy since his first Senate run. (I think I also voted for him when he ran for Lt. gov.)

But not a penny from will he ever get.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:54 PM
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15. Another example of taking ideas from Dean...
I say vote for the original. ;)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:47 AM
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16. A horrible reason to go with Kerry
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 03:48 AM by krkaufman
Money will have diminishing returns. Just look at how much Dean spent in Iowa and New Hampshire.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:55 AM
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17. I much prefer a 'crippled' Dean over a healthy Kerry -nt-
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:02 AM
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18. If money were everything in campaigns
then Democrats would almost NEVER win.

It can make a difference in a close election, but it can't buy success alone.

Take the Dean campaign as an example. They wasted a lot of money on staff and consultants early, indulging in the early fundraising success, only to find themselves too short of cash to run ads in the Feb 3 states. Bush is doing the same thing. Drop by your local Bush HQ and pretend to be undecided. Just look around at the furnishings, equipment, and fixtures. Top-drawer, all the way.

The money only matters if it is spent well, and even then is no guarantee. Truman, JFK, Carter, and Clinton were all outspent in their first runs, but won anyway.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:12 AM
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19. It's all about the money. period.
:puke:
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:26 AM
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20. Helps to have a reasonably good candidate. Remember Gray Davis
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