Weird black and white photos of Massive Protests shown on MSNBC

[KoKo]

I turned on MSNBC at around Noon and they were showing odd black and white film of protestors supposedly in Philadelphia. There were palm trees in the background and it looked like millions of white shirted protestor filling streets for miles. ...Palm trees in Philly?

Then they talked about Atlanta and seemed to show another sort of grainy black and white photo which looked like the same city they claimed was Philly in the film before. I didn't catch the palm trees in this one...but it just didn't look like Atlanta. Also the reporter said that "millions of demostrators from AROUND THE WORLD were expected to show up in the demonstrations here today." (Millions of demonstrators from around the world will be showing up in the US today? Maybe she got confused.)

Anyway they kept talking about all the US cities and then mentioned DC where anywhere from a "thousand to a million are expected to show up" but there was a photo of the mall that was clear.

Did anyone else see this? I thought maybe I was losing my mind or something but the film seemed to be grainy with the same shots taken from a different angle of protests that were in California last week. And, why would they be shot in black and white like an old 30's movie of mass demos in Germany for Hitler?

Again,it just seemed odd....:shrug: But, if the shots were real...how are these millions taking time off work to protest all day...and if may or illegal wouldn't they be afraid? We have millions of Hispanics here in my state and yet no local media has complained about constructions sites or hospitals, etc. being shut down because the workers were going to massive demonstrations in Atlanta or Philly. :eyes:

[electropop]

1. strange

like an old Riefenstahl movie?

[KoKo]

5. yes.. The reporter in frame was in full color

but the film rolling in the other frame was greyed/fuzzy...not in color. Taken from the air. I would have thought it was my TV if the reporter hadn't been in full color.

I was hoping someone else saw it to verify. It creeped me out.

[JuniperLea]

2. Palm trees in Philly?

I swear they think we are all as dumb as W.

[babylonsister]

3. It's a National Day of Action for Hispanics. The pics may look

black and white because they're taken from long distances, i.e., out of a plane. :shrug:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

4. Maybe they mixed up the footage?

I can't imagine why any shots would be B/W. They do get grainy with distance, though.

[BrklynLiberal]

6. Are they are vaulting the propaganda again?

[Laughing Mirror]

7. anywhere from "a thousand to a million" are expcted to show up?

Superb, excellent, precisely detailed and accurate reporting from MSNBC.

The groups participating in the DC rally are expected to reach the rally on the Mall at 4:30 PM. MSNBC might be showing stock footage of some past events.

[seafan]

8. Black&white footage to fool people that these are NOT happening NOW.

Now that we know that the propaganda stream is aimed squarely at Americans...


Here is Miami yesterday, Sunday:



ALEXIA FODERE/FOR THE MIAMI HERALD
THOUSANDS: Demonstrators march from the City of Miami Government Center to the Freedom Tower in downtown Miami, Sunday.



ALEXIA FODERE/FOR THE MIAMI HERALD
SIMPLE VIEW: Arcelio Bejarano, 80, from Colombia marches in front of the Government Center in downtown to the Freedom Tower, Sunday.



ALEXIA FODERE/FOR THE MIAMI HERALD
LOVE OF AMERICA: Marchers demonstrate in favor of protecting undocumented immigrants, on Sunday.



ALEXIA FODERE/FOR THE MIAMI HERALD
YOUNG IMMIGRANT: Heidy Bustillo from Honduras is marching with her three-year-old son Alex Bustillo in downtown Miami, Sunday.

[TheBaldyMan]

9. B&W covers up the fact that they are flying the stars and stripes ?

Three cheers for the light grey, white and dark grey

[KoKo]

12. looked like everyone had on white shirts and it did seem to be taken

from above...but another poster said maybe it was surveillance camers. It was that kind of quality...but now that I think about it I think the shots were from too high up to be a camera mounted at street level. Looked more like something from a helicopter or plane. :shrug:

[LibertyLover]

10. For what it's worth, it might be footage from surveillance cameras,

which tend to be in black and white. I don't pretend to be able to explain palm trees in Boston - darn that global warming.

Here in DC the police announced that they would be turning on their surveillance cameras on the Mall, the White House, the Capital and other public areas about 1 pm. The march isn't scheduled to start here until 4 pm, which is why the Mall looks so clear. I believe the marchers are scheduled to form up in Octagon Park on 16th Street and march over to the Mall, with the rally taking place between 7th and 14th Streets on the Mall. The local all news radio was reminding commuters that they might find metro cars crowded, but I have to say that coming in this morning I thought fewer people riding. The real stink here is that Montgomery County is allowing students to attend the march and get credit towards their <insert fancy name for community service that the school system uses that I can't remember here> requirements. WTOP, the all news radio, interviewed a Montgomery County school official who explained that students can get the credit for attending what they term "advocacy" events so long as it's done on the students' own time, the event is sponsored by a non-profit group which has gone through a vetting process by the county school board and the students turn in evidence from the group that they did indeed attend. The spokesperson explained that students could attend anti-immigration reform rallies if they chose to, provided that the group had been approved and gone through the vetting process. He went on to clarify that that meant students could get credit for attending Republican events, Democratic events, NRA events, in other words, a broad spectrum of political beliefs. The spokesman concluded by explaining that students attending these advocacy events had assignments to do in connection with the event and get them signed off on by the sponsoring group - for the immigration reform rally, the sponsoring group intended to teach the students a civics lesson on how a bill gets made (sad they aren't learning this in school).

So of course this morning there was a flaming right winger's letter in the Examiner (a free paper here in DC) about how the Montgomery County executive Doug Duncan and school board superintendent Jerry Weast were forcing students to go to protest marches and he wanted it stopped. The writer had no clue how the community service requirement worked, and admitted as much in his letter, but it was clear to him that Duncan was "forcing his political views on the students of Montgomery County" and it had to be stopped. Oy.

[KoKo]

11. OY is right....So it's mostly students

attending these protests?

You may be right about it coming from a surveillance camera. The quality was what I've seen when the media shows surveillance camera shots. But, given that there were live shots (even the one posted on this thread) of demonstrations over the weekend in color...why would they have shown massive protests of blocks filled with what looked like millions with palm trees saying they were shots of Philly and Atlanta protests? It was the same film...but from different angle...I didn't see palm trees in the second film that was supposed to be Atlanta but it was the same city from another angle. It looked more like LA than Philly or Atlanta.

Who knows...but it was not right to show pictures of scenes for protests that hadn't even begun if they were from CA shot last week. It struck me as hype and propaganda doing it like that...pretending this was current film. Who knows what they do....anymore. :crazy:

[LibertyLover]

13. No, I didn't mean to imply that.

Please forgive my poor writing style. Here in DC, I think that students will be part of the march, certainly, but that the marchers will be people from many different walks of life, ages and places. Organizers were quoted as saying they expected participants from Delaware and West Virginia.

But I've noticed CNN doing the exactly what you describe: showing the same scene from a different angle and claiming it's from another location.

[McCamy Taylor]

14. NBC=GE=LOOOOOVE those immigrants and their cheap labor

so I would not be too concerned about looking for media bias from NBC. You almost never see an inflammatory story about immigrants on that network (except for the personal opinions of a few right wingers like Pat Buchanan).

It is CNN (Lou Dobbs) and FOX you have to watch out for.