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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:18 AM
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FUTURE FIRST HUSBAND BORN-AGAIN BILL IS RIGHT and...
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 08:22 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
Future Madame President is a money machine that is unstoppable when it comes to raising campaign funds. I heard Bill Clinton jokingly refer to himself as "the worlds best-known sinner" yesterday as he let voters sneak a peek at Hillary's first ace in the hole.

Putting God into politics is fine for a future First Hubby as long as Ms. President acts egalitarian and Democratic. Lots of First Ladies have been highly visible Christians. For all of those who will argue it's not quite Kosher, I only have one question: We Democrats don't have double standards about sex do we? According to a self-confessed, fast-forgiven "sinner" Republicans don't own God and Democrats have traditionally made a mistake in letting them claim they did.

If DeLay can pray and make issues go away, then so can Bill. The main difference is brother Bill presents much more charisma as he throws down a religious gauntlet. This nation of conservative Christian voters is sick of a war Jesus hates. Christ speaks to our hearts constantly, while teaching us it is morally wrong with His every written Word. Speaking of morals the Republicans have shown so few scruples that I suspect all those devoutly Catholic Hispanics will file for a divorce in November. Many of them realize that corruption is exactly what destroys most governments south of the border. They came here to escape it, not sponsor corruption with their votes.

This Clinton approach is Fundamentally sound and offers Salvation from the Republican Culture of Corruption but I don't think it will fly high on the far left. Most American voters, however, are no where near this distant ultra-liberal pole. Christians love nothing more than "sinners" who seek forgiveness before flying to the pulpit and preaching with the Glory of an Evangelist, with fire in his heart and a sense of humor to boot.

Did you people think I was simply kidding around last month, when I created all that art demonizing Republicans as it raises Democrats to lofty heights? Well, think again.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:28 AM
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1. It won't fly with most Americans period.
This smacks of pandering at its worst. Where was ultra Christian Bill during his tenure in that office? And Hillary wasn't off during church bake sales during her stint as FLOTUS. So suddenly they find religion because it's what worked to bring in voters the last time. Ultra liberals won't go for this because they(and I) can't stand hypocrites. Average Americans/Swing Voters won't go for this because they can't stand hypocrites either.

For everyone who loves Hillary to death, please for one minute stand back and take an objective look at her. All you have to do is say her name and the Republicans are foaming at the mouth. She will be the poster child for whipping up their base. And quite frankly, you have an awful lot of Democrats who can't stand her either. Not because she panders to big business, but because we're tired of having to support people who talk out of both sides of their mouths. As much as Dick Morris and others want you to believe it, Hillary can not win.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:33 AM
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2. while you were busy speaking for everyone near the left or middle
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 08:40 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
why did you miss such a great chance to give voice to that Hispanic segment, which represents 40% of the voters in America?

on edit: In upcoming months, just hide and watch how high it flies with forgiving, garden-variety, Church-going Christians.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:43 AM
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3. What I don't think you get is Christians are some of the WORSE sinners
and they in some respect seem to blast others to blast themselves in secret. Redemption is powerful and respected.

BTW....Hillary has ALWAYS been a church going woman. Just cuz she didn't flaunt it doesn't make it any less so.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:57 AM
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4. she's far too noble to "flaunt" her religion...
Her minister and fellow Church members might help out, if anyone dares scream hipocrite. "JUDGE NOT LEAST YE BE JUDGED" sayeth Christ.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:07 AM
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5. Was she so "noble" when she was sitting on the board of WalMart?
The very same company that locks in those Hispanic workers overnight to clean their stores?

I won't need to hide. I'll be in plain view with the vast majority of the country that won't buy her latest song and dance to win votes.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:18 AM
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6. she was as noble as all the Christians that shop there
WallMartlyness is next to Godliness. Making money is no sin and she doesn't make the decisions at WallMart, if she did they'd have good health-care.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:20 AM
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7. Link?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:28 AM
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8. He said it on CNN yesterday... I'll find another like and post it soon
i hope... good question goclark... I too wonder how much coverage it got in other media. thanks for asking.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:36 AM
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9. Her term at Wal-Mart
Was from 1986-1992 when she was first lady of Arkansas. It was a time when Sam Walton was actually doing good things for the state of Arkansas and I imagine it was largely ceremonial.
Additionally both Clintons have been religious people. He a Baptist, she a Methodist. I see no hypocrisy there.

For all her faults, these two things are inconsequential IMO.

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:03 AM
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10. Everybody who wins elections panders to big business to some degree
Hillary can win, especially if the GOP lose control of congress in 2006 elections, as that would indicate that the american people are really sick of republicans.

She can't beat McCain, if he were to be nominated. Most of the white male voters who voted for Clinton in 96 (and Perot in 92) will vote for McCain. The only way she could beat McCain is if the di-hard conservatives stay home or vote third party.

Other, less-known candidates are a different matter.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:16 AM
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11. Hispanic women are going to be a factor... I wonder how she looks to them
how bout women in general, who have claimed for years that a woman in the White House can do a better job... Maggy Thatcher wasn't bad! I bet Brits bitch that a boogie-man is better than Blair.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:04 AM
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12. darn too late to edit my last post
If anyone wants to beat McCain all they need do is bring a stick with them as go on wilderness outings. Who knows, McCain might be associated with the REPUBLICAN CULTURE OF CORRUPTION or even endicted before November. He's certainly dirty enough.
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