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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:24 PM
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Whoever Dems pick in 2008, He/she must be member of Trilat Comm.
The Trilateral Commission was formed in 1973. Its mission:

Two strong convictions guide our thinking for the 2004-2006 triennium. First, the Trilateral Commission remains as important as ever in helping our countries fulfill their shared leadership responsibilities in the wider international system and, second, its framework needs to be widened to reflect broader changes in the world. Thus, the Japan Group has become a Pacific Asian Group, and Mexican members have been added to the North American Group. The European Group continues to widen in line with the enlargement of the EU. We are also continuing in this triennium our practice of inviting a number of participants from other key areas.

The “growing interdependence” that so impressed the founders of the Trilateral Commission in the early 1970s is deepening into “globalization.” The need for shared thinking and leadership by the Trilateral countries, who (along with the principal international organizations) remain the primary anchors of the wider international system, has not diminished but, if anything, intensified. At the same time, their leadership must change to take into account the dramatic transformation of the international system. As relations with other countries become more mature—and power more diffuse—the leadership tasks of the original Trilateral countries need to be carried out with others to an increasing extent.


http://www.trilateral.org/about.htm

Membership list

Notice that since 1976, every American administration has had a president or vice president who was a member of this organization (boldface indicates membership):

1976-1980—Jimmy Carter & Walter Mondale
1980-1988—Ronald Reagan & George H W Bush
1988-1992—George H W Bush & Dan Quayle
1992-2000—Bill Clinton & Al Gore
2000-2008—George W Bush & Dick Cheney

Notice that Ronald Reagan and George W Bush are not members, but their vice-presidents were/are. I think we can safely say the Reagan and BushII are merely figureheads and not really active participants in their administrations. Membership to this group is by invitation only. Perhaps the organization didn't want Reagan or Bush II.

But also notice that neither Al Gore or Joe Lieberman, nor John Kerry or John Edwards are on the list. That must be the reason Gore and Kerry weren't allowed to be President!

So no matter who the Democrats nominate for 2008, if neither the Presidential or Vice-Presidential nominees are TriLateral Commission members, they won't be elected.

Now, what the Hell is the "Trilateral Commission" really all about (and do their goals clash or compliment the PNACers)?

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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:26 PM
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1. One World Government n/t
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:26 PM
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2. Oh, your going to catch some heat for this post!!!
Just watch
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:28 PM
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3. Yeah, this I guess is
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:32 PM by Bobbie47
not allowed?


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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:32 PM
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4. I posted this same line of post yesterday here
The Global Elite: Who are they?- A Must Read to be informed

:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2564356


A scholarly report and a must read, the trilateral members are not just the only players

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:40 PM
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7. Thanks, IChing! It was your post that prompted me to do this one.
I was intrigued when I saw that every administration since the founding of the Trilat Comm had a member as the President or Vice-President, and wanted to highlight that with regard to Election 2008. I suppose we just have to wait and see who the candidates are and check to see if they're members. In this respect, we'll know who the winners are even before the election or Diebold.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:57 PM
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11. Becoming aware of facts vs opionions is the first step to political
consciousness,
the reoccurring names and ties in positions of power
is not just a coincidence of birth, when the agenda is clearly described in documents

Thanks for helping my thread, I know it may sound a little tinfoil-ish but verifiable on who's who.
I worked for Bill's campaigned but I was so much older then, I am younger than that now, globalization trade agreements finally turned me off.

I see why he is now, buddy buddy now with the Bush family and why the media whores and others are telling us Hillary is our candidate.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:37 PM
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5. Didn't Reagan want Ford again? Bush Sr. was a last minute switch.
Where's Thom Hartmann when you need him?

How did a bumpkin from Hope like Clinton get on the commission?

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:41 PM
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8. Just like Cheney was selected "to find" a Veep for Bush II
And then, wham! He selects himself!

I always thought that was odd.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:37 PM
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6. It seems more than they should NOT be part of this list
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:46 PM by Mass
if we want things to change. I did not see Carter in the list.

Note: I found it in the link that IChing posted.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:45 PM
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10. I didn't see his name either, however...
In 1973, leaders of the Establishment were looking for a southern representative and invited Carter to join the Trilateral Commission. This gave Carter access to individuals who could aid his campaign with financial support, advice on strategy and policy positions, and favorable coverage in the mass communications media.

Carter, the Atlanta Establishment, and the National Power Structure

Jimmy Carter was a wealthy landowner and agribusiness-man when he launched his political career in the early 1960s. By the time of his 1970 campaign for governor, Carter was personally close to, and supported by, central figures of the Atlanta Establishment-the upper class leadership group which runs that city and which has great influence throughout Georgia and the entire southeastern United States...

These and similar connections led, by 1971, to meetings between Carter and both David Rockefeller and Hedley Donovan, then editor-in-chief of Time magazine and now Carter's senior adviser on domestic affairs and media relations. Carter was consequently no stranger to these national leaders when they decided to form the Trilateral Commission in the Spring of 1973. At that time, David Rockefeller, with George S. Franklin Jr., a Rockefeller in-law, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Owen, Robert Bowie, and Gerard C. Smith-the last four, now members of the Carter Administration- selected members for the Commission. To advise them on the best Southerners to include they consulted contacts in that part of the United States. Franklin, Brzezinski, Owen, Bowie, and Smith were all leading members of a premier organization of the Eastern Establishment: the Council on Foreign Relations. The Council has a number of affiliated organizations, called the Committees on Foreign Relations, made up of local leaders in thirty-seven cities around the nation. Franklin called upon one of the leaders of the Council's Atlanta Committee-a group reflecting that city's power structure-to set up an advisory group to recommend possible members for the Commission. This was done and, on 13 April 1973, this body of prominent Atlantans recommended Carter for membership.

Jimmy Carter was a very active member of the Trilateral Commission, attending all the regional sessions and the first plenary meeting in Japan in May 1976. For this last session, Carter paid his air fare and other expenses from campaign funds and then was reimbursed by the Commission. In other words, Carter saw his journey to Japan as a campaign trip and the Commission's reimbursement represented a campaign contribution of $1,323.44.7 For a period of several years Carter personally phoned the Commission's headquarters to keep up with the latest reports, and even passed out trilateral pamphlets when he worked with the Democratic National Committee in 1974.


http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Trilateralism/JimmyCarter_Trilat.html

For what it's worth...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:42 PM
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17. They knew this about Carter. he realize to be a player in the game
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 10:47 PM by IChing
He must participate in the game to be elected. He was an intellectual wild-card and hope he would come around.

But when he went against the powers that are and said his consciousness on energy use
for this nation which was against the corporate
members of the oil and energy cartel.
they abandoned and destroyed him and was considered not a member of the inner circle but a pedestrian .


Thus you got Reagan..........remember Iran..... and the hostage release timing?
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AmericanDream Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:44 PM
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9. They probably became members after being elected (and/or retiring)
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:49 PM by AmericanDream
How do you know that these guys were members before they were elected to office? I highly doubt that clinton, who was merely a governor from Arkansas, was even known - let alone invited - by this organization. In fact, the guy knew nothing about foriegn affairs before getting into office. Same goes for Jimmy Carter - you think he was directing world affairs before he became president? Common sense please.

Edit: Okay, saw your article about Jimmie... whatever, who cares?


Not that I care... but still, I bet most of these guys became members during or after their stint at the presidential and/or vice presidential level, not before it.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:17 PM
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12. I remember reading articles about Carter BEFORE
He was elected, with photo's, of his membership. Brezinski was also a member beforehand.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:06 PM
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13. Did anyone seriously expect to see "Dan Quayle" in Bold?
:rofl:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:03 PM
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14. Well, he DID sign the PNAC "Statement of Principles"
Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;

• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;

• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;

• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.

Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush

Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes

Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle

Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz

Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen

Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz


http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

Perhaps this only proves he can sign his name, something a four-year old can do...;)

By the way, how do you like this statement?
Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today

Reaganite? :rofl:

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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:14 PM
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15. would the 50-60's science fiction writers have predicted this insane govt?
They made some crazy 'predictions' that didn't come true but nothing like the creepy machine we have now.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:32 PM
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16. yes - they would and they have...n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:03 AM
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18. "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" comes to mind
As far as 1950s sci-fi movie writing goes.

Plot Outline: A small town doctor learns that the population of his community is being replaced by alien duplicates. (substitute "alien duplicates" with "Bush supporters," although Invasion of the Mind Snatchers would be more apropos)

Internet Movie Database

Go to sleep--wake up a BushBot.


Oh, look! A BushBot pupa
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