Will Rummy Resign?

[Sparkly]

What's your best guess? Will he resign at some point before the end of Chimpy's term, or will he stay?

[0007]

1. I think he'll resign, but I'm usually wrong.

[onehandle]

2. He already "tried" (or so claimed) a while back.

The Bush motto, "Never admit you're wrong. No matter who dies.".

He'll go when Bush goes. Bank on it.

[fooj]

3. He is part of the BFEE...he will NEVER resign.

Peace.

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. I think he won't resign, but I'm usually wrong.

[blondeatlast]

30. I hope you are wrong now. nt

[Cooley Hurd]

5. He won't have a choice. The Gens who are calling for his ouster...

...have started a tidal wave of criticism and calls for Rummy's head. I'd be surprised if he lasted past next week.:thumbsdown:

[plusfiftyfive]

22. HUH?

George does NOT agree with you!

Where did you think that even retired military Generals will be able to threaten this administration?

People must be very unsophisticated to think they have a democracy any more. The Ohio elections proved that... democracy in the USA is a myth, IMO!!! And the Democrats are powerless, if not hopeless to have a chance defeat the Bush/FOXNEWS/RELIGIO-MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-OIL warmongers rule of terror.........you really think these five or six guys have any influence when the nation has been stolen and defiled with the likes of Bush... this idiot in charge?


DREAM ON!

[Cooley Hurd]

27. It's an election year - they'll jettison Rummy for votes if...

...they think it would help their chances.

Dream on, yourself... :eyes:

[blondeatlast]

32. The NeoCons couldn't care less about a Republican majority.

As long as they have their power elite placed, they are fine.

They won't even bother to listen to the principled Republicans on the issue, much less the will of their bosses, We, the People.

[The White Tree]

6. They'll have to pry the Pentagon out of his cold dead hands

even if they fired him tomorrow.

[marmar]

7. I voted no, but...

to quote Rummy himself:


As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.

—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

[phantom power]

8. No way will he resign.

These guys don't give a flying fuck about dissenting opinions. They all "know" they're right, and they only talk to each other. They have no intention of surrendering the smallest bit of power, or making the smallest admission that they're wrong about anything.

[opihimoimoi]

9. In the end...he too will fall on the Sword...dragging and kicking, he

will be forced to resign....

[rusty_parts2001]

10. Oh heavens....

Henny penny... yada yada yada

Hell NO

[MsTryska]

11. i'll channel rummy and say

"who knows?" :shrug:

[longship]

12. Yes. The question is, "when?"

I really don't think Rummy will resign until things are *really* bad for him. "Really bad" means by WH standards, not normal people's standards. All the wheels have got to come off the cart before the WH will even acknowledge that there's a problem. It has to be much, much worse than that before they will act.

Rummy *will* leave, but not until the WH starts making strong public announcements like, "the President has the highest support for Sec'y Rumsfeld". Then, he's gonna be gone within a day or two.

So far, the WH is not indicating such strong support for Rummy. So that means that he's not going any time soon.

[Clarkie1]

13. No, he won't...* will never ask him to resign.

They are both equally arrogant; they don't lift people up, they put people down.

[saltpoint]

14. A fair-to-even chance he'll resign before the midterms if Iraq is still

a mess, and it likely will be.

A better-than-even chance after the midterms, especially if the House of Representatives flips blue and absolutely if both the House and Senate flip blue. He might find himself opening subpoena requests from Democratic-led committees at which he himself is the primary inquisitee.

There is no great political gain for Bush if Rumsfeld continues to stubbornly remain and continues to be the target of significant distrust and public disdain by U.S. military brass.

I believe Sen. John Warner (R-VA) will put in a private meeting with the White House and demurely read them the riot act on Don Rumsfeld.

[Dulcinea]

15. Rummy's not going anywhere.

He's a loyal insider. That's all that counts as far as Boy George is concerned.

[DemGirl7]

16. There is no way in hell that he will resign

I think this rat is going down with the sinking ship to the very end.

[L. Coyote]

17. If he resigns, who will take the blame?

Does it matter? This is taking blame-attention off Numbers 1 and 2.

It makes it seem like this guy is where the buck stopped.

The guys who should resign are the ones in charge, those who lied to start the war.

[Jai4WKC08]

18. Amen, Coyote

Rummy should go, but he's not the source of the problem. Just an enabler.

[NJ Democrats]

19. I hope he does

But I don't think he will

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

20. I don't think he will, although I think he's wanted to ...

...for over two years. Chimpy wants him on board. Chimpy likes having anybody on board who will draw attention for ineptitude toward themselves and away from Chimpy. Rumsfeld meets this need better than most. Brownie met this need better than anyone, and if Chimpy had had his way Brown would still be front and center taking the ineptitude heat. Brown couldn't stand it when it got too hot and quit, even though talked into a brief reassignment.

[ShortnFiery]

21. He'll be dragged out of office, kicking and screaming all the way ...

Live it up now Watergate and Iran-Contra Criminals! When we rid all of your young that have crept out of the woodwork, your PNAC empire delusions will implode with your careers. :puke:

[cassiepriam]

23. Never. Bush needs Rummy to take the heat, this is perfect for shrub.

[blondeatlast]

33. Excellent point. nt

[Catchawave]

24. No, they're already dragging out retired generals

defending him on the MSM. "Yer doing a heck of a job Donnie" blah, blah, blah.
:cry:

[thatsrightimirish]

25. Just wondering

Didn't he offer his resignation twice and bush refused?

[Ronnie]

26. If he does,

then what? If he doesn't, then what? Both possibilities are too awful to think about.

[PurityOfEssence]

28. REAL men never admit mistakes... (especially not short men)

No, he would only resign if forced out by every power broker.

He typifies the worst of the worst of traditional masculinity, and he'll be there 'til the very bitter end unless the powerful need to shore up their hold on things.

[blondeatlast]

29. No--hubris is arrogance without the touch of reality. nt

[napi21]

31. IF the active Gens resign their commission, as I heard some might,

if Shrub doesn't take nukes off the table against Iran, then Rummy will have no choice! He'll HAVE to quit.

[cliss]

34. It's true that the Triumvirate of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfailed

couldn't give a rip what the population thinks.

But this is different.

We're talking about the MILITARY here. These are the people who will put into place their maniacal dreams of world dominance....bombinb countries.....marching in....taking countries. The PNAC.

THESE are the people who are now revolting.

Without the military, everything is ruined.

Bush has now come to the Fork in the road. He MUST decide. You better believe they're deciding right now. Nobody's out on an Easter Egg hunt this weekend.

His options are all bad ones. Dump Rumsfailed, and try to salvage what's left of the war plans? If he does, it will help morale. But the will be openly seen as a huge failure, as it really is.

Or keep him? What will happen if Rumsfailed stays? And risk open mutiny among the enlisted men? I think not.

My hunch: they will decide to wait a while, gauge the feelings of the enlisted men. They'll be very aggressive, "support Rumsfailed, dammit".

Just how passionate are the generals about this? They'll try to compromise, make deals. When they see that it's hopeless, they'll unload him. Give it another 3 weeks, and he'll be gone.