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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:56 PM
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Mr. Bush, Take Down This Wall
Why are Canadians treated differently that Mexicans?
To name a few walls that need to come down...

Mr. Bush, Take Down This Wall:

The Race Wall
The Minimum Wage Wall
The Right to Vote Wall
The Human Dignity Wall
The Equality Wall

Please help name a few more of the walls you want to see come down ....

Is the real motivation behind "guest worker" classification control of the
voter demographic, like slaves, Indians and Negores not having voting rights
in the past?

Why do we build a wall on only one border?
Why not take down that wall?
Why not open the border to all citizens of Mexico?
Is something wrong with their money or their color?

Are Mexicans and Canadians equal under American law?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:09 PM
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1. Bush, for once, isn't the bad guy
Bush wants a PEMEX guest worker program and PEMEX amnesty (but doesn't want to PEMEX call it amnesty).

I'm sure PEMEX he has ulterior PEMEX motives, but the real bad guys are people like Sensenbrenner.

--p!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:12 PM
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2. Will guest worker get to vote?
Bush wants workers who can't vote, but w/o alienating those who can vote.

Looks like a political tight-rope walk to me. And there's no net on this issue.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:25 PM
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3. Found this image:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:58 PM
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9. That's a real road sign .... on the I-5 ... just before the checkpoint on
the northboud side, right north of Camp Pendelton.

In actuality, the sign makes sense. That's the area where they jump out of cars to get around the checkpoint on foot ... sometimes risking their lives to cross the 8 lanes of freeway.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:41 PM
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6. I don't know
Since this is a political football, and there are several bills floating around, there's no telling. But I would just assume that the very worst of the bills will be the one that gets passed, and the "coyotes" (That's their slang term for "illegal" -- did you pick your name "El Coyote" because of that?) will be the recipient of some good old-fashioned American business community Free-Enterprise screwing.

¡Bienvenidos á America! ¿Donde está la Vaselina?

I think this is a last-ditch effort by the GOP to save itself. It won't work. It will increase the hostility between the Mexican and the Anglos in the southwest, an unnecessary situation that has only ever helped corrupt politicians and businesspeople. It is very likely to cost a ton of money whichever way it goes. And it will make millions of people on both sides of the border miserable in the process.

--p!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:57 PM
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8. "coyotes" (That's their slang term for "illegal"
In immigration parlance, a "coyote" is a person who facilitates undocumented border crossing. A sneaky dog!

L. is Laughing, not "El", and in the sense of the trickster figure in many cultures, and some tricky politics (but never dirty tricks).
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:03 PM
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10. Hmmm ... interesting
Thanks for the clarification.

I was aware that the coyote had an honored place in Mesoamerican folklore, but wasn't aware of the exact use of the term in immigration.

That trickster thing is cool in general, and AFAIK, it's universal. The impact of mythology is little-appreciated, but our culture is shot-through with it. We're not all that different from the mead-swilling, mullet-coiffed hell-raisers who came down the central Asian steppes 6000 years ago. (Well, I've got to admit, losing the mullets was an improvement.)

I'm afraid, though, that this nation is going to need quite a few of those positive tricks in the near future. The dogs we've got ruling the kennel are as mangy a bunch of curs as the world has ever seen.

--p!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:17 PM
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11. mangy a bunch of curs
<<< "The dogs we've got ruling the kennel are as mangy a bunch of curs as the world has ever seen." >>>

I was once told by an emminent thinker, "Noone can oppose the government alone."
My response was, "Everyone can oppose the government alone."

A few million of those fleas and the mangy curs will be in virtual doggie hell, squirmy with no relief.

We can all take a lesson from Karl Rove, and whisper, whisper, whisper, everywhere we go.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:31 PM
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4. "Why do we build a wall on only one border?"
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 04:33 PM by madeline_con
Wall? What wall?

EDIT: added:

Moving forward with the "guest worker" program is state-sponsored slave labor. Those who support it are the racists, not those who oppose it.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:35 PM
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5. The Wall of Futility and Folly
The wall that makes people cross in the middle of the desert instead.

The Wall of Futility and Folly, that wall. The Wall of Wasted Money!!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:50 PM
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7. "guest worker" program is state-sponsored slave labor
AGREED, and an improvement on "Wink-and-Nod" slave labor, easier to ship them off after the crop is in.

There is a growing fear of this demographic exploding into the voting age group. And now the die is being cast as to which group they will oppose/favor. Pandering to racism seems to be where a lot of the red state right is laying bets.
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