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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:25 PM
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You know they've jumped the shark when they start going after the Army
And isn't that what they're doing right now?

Tune in any right wing radio clown, and you'll hear that's what's being done at this very moment, all for the sake of Rumsfeld and their PNAC plans.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&tab=wn&q=Rumsfeld+Generals&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=McCarthy+Army&btnG=Google+Search
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:28 PM
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1. That's when McCarthy jumped the shark, and that brought....
his red-scare tactics to a screeching halt.

If you fuck with the army, you get blowback.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:29 PM
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2. well, you know that West Point
Filled with a bunch of pinko tree hugging commie sympathizing drug using latte sipping wimpy liberals. Wasn't it West Point that Rick Santorum called the epicenter of all that is bad in America?

:sarcasm:

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:31 PM
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5. And they're all gay too.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:33 PM
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6. that's right, how could I forget?
I mean, only a bunch of gay men could come up with the "don't ask don't tell" policy.

But, the military helped bring down Ann Coulter's favorite senator, Joe McCarthy. Hopefully, they can bring down her favorite president & VP, too.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:30 PM
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3. More Irony
I guess the knucklehead chickenhawks are not supporting the troops now. Not long ago bush was blathering on about listening to his field commanders. The recently retired ones who are damning his soul were his field commanders. But to military experts like limbaugh and hannity its all the generals fault. What the fuck do they know. More irony - two of the generals who are bitching about bush were identified by their civilian bosses for promotion but chose to resign then to continue serving this administration. I guess they were so fucked up that rumsfeld wanted to promote them.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 05:37 PM
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14. Truth ... damned truth. Its always the truth that gits ya.
Lies are we need now, Boss ... and there ya go ... truth tellin'. Y'oughta be ashamed of yerself.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:30 PM
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4. i thought they reached that point when they went after the cia!
i still can't believe the cia didn't burn him fast after that!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:39 PM
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9. The CIA cannot go public.
The Army CAN
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:23 PM
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11. i wouldn't have expected the cia to do their work IN PUBLIC.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 04:41 PM
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12. I know what you are suggesting...
and I simply don't think they would ever work that way domestically.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 04:48 PM
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13. i wasn't necessarily suggesting THAT
they could have covertly destroy his reputation, for instance, whether through investigation or by planting evidence or just by leaking stories.

on the other hand, he's been getting bad press ever since katrina, so maybe they DID do something covert, who knows?

:tinfoilhat:
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:34 PM
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7. This is very good
If rightwing media is attacking the army, it could very well turn more listeners away from the GOP than just about anything we could say.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:39 PM
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8. OmiGAWD -- check this one out!!
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 01:41 PM by Sparkly
Op-Ed piece in WSJ:

"Much of the acrimony expressed by Secretary Rumsfeld's military critics appears to stem from his efforts to 'transform' the military by moving to a joint expeditionary force that is lighter and more mobile in nature to meet the nation's current and future threats," the article said.

"Many senior officers and bureaucrats did not support his transformation goals -- preferring conventional weapons of the past ... which prove practically useless against lawless and uncivilized enemies engaged in asymmetric warfare," the writers continued.

"It unfortunately appears that two of the retired generals (Messrs. Zinni and Newbold) do not understand the true nature of this radical ideology, Islamic extremism, and why we fight in Iraq. We suggest they listen to the tapes of United 93."

The op-ed piece was written by retired Lt. Gen. John Crosby, former deputy commanding general of the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command; retired Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, former assistant vice chief of staff of the U.S. Air Force; retired Maj. Gen. Buron Moore, U.S. Air Force, who was director of Central Command during Operation Desert Storm; and retired Maj. Gen Paul Vallely, former deputy commander of the U.S.. Army, Pacific.


http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/17/rumsfeld/
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:52 PM
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10. Yeah, these Generals just aren't as visionary as Rumsfeld.
That must be what all the fuss is about.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 05:43 PM
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15. That's just crazy!
And of course the media will probably just let that ridiculous comment slide.. Unbelievable!!!
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