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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:19 PM
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Losing Joe-mentum


Posted by Evan Derkacz at 7:00 AM on April 21, 2006.

In other polling news (prez at 33%), Joe Lieberman's (D-CT) numbers are tanking as he enters a tough primary against Ned Lamont.

Dems and liberals, consistently disappointed by Lieberman's cozying up to the president, lending a veneer of bipartisanship to the most destructive policies, and parroting of right wing talking points, are sending a message. (Some speculate that the Democrat mentioned in Seymour Hersh's article on nuking Iran is wrong-way Joe)

ctblogger writes: "Wondering why Joe Lieberman is airing television ads in April? Well, maybe this new polling data has something to do with it."

Among Liberals:

(3/13/06) 49% approve, 41% disapprove, 10% undecided

(4/10/06) 46% approve, 49% disapprove, 5% undecided

Among Democrats:

(3/13/06) 56% approve, 35% disapprove, 8% undecided

(4/10/06) 54% approve, 41% disapprove, 5% undecided

ctblogger predicts a Lieberman independent run if Lamont gets over 30% in the primary...

But more important than the winner or loser in this single race is the message that disloyalty won't be tolerated just because you have a "D" next to your name... (ConnecticutBlog)


Evan Derkacz is a New York-based writer and contributor to AlterNet.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:20 PM
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1. Adios and Good Riddance Joe....nt
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:21 PM
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2. Lieberbutt is going to have a
tough time pulling away from his image...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:24 PM
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3. cnn said that this was the first time in 12 years that Joe had to do ads.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:27 PM
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4. How about making it go from "Losing Joementum" to
Fuck off and never come back ?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:28 PM
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5. If Joe were "bipartisan", he'd be 50% better than he is now.
He's a republican, and not a particularly moderate one. He has supported the president because he is president since he became president. When do we see him side with democrats? Can't we trade him for Olympia Snowe?
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:42 PM
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8. This was part of an article in the Hartford Courant
(I don't like the sound of this)


"If Lieberman runs as an independent in November against Lamont and Schlesinger, Republicans believe they can slice up the votes in the same way Weicker did in 1970."
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-senate0418.artapr18,0,1202838.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics-state
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:33 PM
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6. If Jo-Jo runs as a third party candidate, he will be intentionally
hurting the Democratic Party. If he does that, we will all know, without doubt or caveat, that Lieberman is a supporter of the Republican Party. If he is a true Democrat, he will support the nominee of his party. We'll see...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:35 PM
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7. His numbers are still way too high.
I can't fathom why he has that much support.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:53 PM
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9. This may account for some the support


http://www.swingstateproject.com/2006/04/ctsen_lieberman_1.ph


"One other detail: I believe that CT has a closed primary system - ie, you can only vote in your own party's primary. Some people have suggested that Republican Joe-lovers (and they are legion) might switch parties just to cast a vote for him in the primary."
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:21 PM
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11. Republicans who switch to Dems have to do it 6 monts before the primary
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 03:22 PM by Larkspur
date, so it's too late for them to switch now.

Independents can switch up to the day of the primary and based on the Survey USA poll, Lieberman is losing Indies a bit faster than Democrats.

The Republicans running for senate are Bush clones, for example, they favor Social Security privatization, which is strongly opposed by CT citizens, and they favor strong legislation against illegal immigrants.

Lieberman, if he runs Independent, may actually split the Republican vote more than the Democratic one. Lieberman polls 70% with Repukes. He's polling 54% among Democrats.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:02 PM
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10. Wouldn't that be somethin'........Joe retiring!!!
I'd love to see it!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:15 PM
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12. What if Rumsfeld is forced out, or resigns in a huff, and Bush
appoints Lieberman as his replacement?

This has been talked up for over a year, at least.

The Republican Governor of Connecticut would likely appoint a Republican to replace Joe and Lamont would likely be the Democrats' nominee.

In blue Connecticut, how would that play out, I wonder.
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