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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:05 AM
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O'Reilly: "Nobody born on foreign soil deserves to become an American"
The Press and Illegal Immigration
Wednesday, April 26, 2006
By Bill O'Reilly

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193184,00.html

By a wide margin, the American press sympathizes with people who have come to this country illegally in order to work. But it is no surprise as the U.S. media are firmly in a liberal camp. That assessment is based on the polling of journalists and analyzing newspaper editorials and comments. Leading the charge to give citizenship to 12 million illegal aliens is The New York Times, which on Tuesday said this: "The Senate's latest immigration bill is an awkward, unappetizing compromise, which would shut out many newer immigrants and impose daunting red-tape hurdles on the rest. But at least it remains wrapped around a vital principle; the option of citizenship for those in the shadow population who want and deserve to become Americans."

Deserve to become Americans? Are they kidding? Nobody born on foreign soil deserves to become an American. That's a birthright. There are billions of good people in this world. Millions of them would love to come here and be free. But nobody deserves to come here.

This kind of thinking is the hallmark of the open society crowd, which believes in a one-world government and no border restrictions. To them, freedom of any movement is a human rights issue. And if you deprive anyone of that freedom, you're a bad person. Think about it: People who violate American immigration laws deserve to become Americans? What about the millions of people playing by the rules? Patiently waiting for their chance to live here. Aren't they more deserving? Where does this end?

The answer to that question is it doesn't end. The New York Times and many other liberal organizations live in a theoretical world — a left-wing Garden of Eden before the snake. The truth is the USA cannot accept all the deserving people in this world, and should not accept anyone who does not earn citizenship. In conjunction with securing the border — and I mean securing the border — most Americans will accept a guest worker situation that could lead, could lead to citizenship for immigrants both legal and illegal. But this deserving stuff is dangerous and foolish. Let's stop the nonsense. Pass a fair immigration law that helps the nation and provides us protection now.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:07 AM
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1. O'Reilly, huh? I doubt there were any O'Reillys on the Mayflower.
:eyes:
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:09 AM
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4. Someone needs to sit Bill down and tell him about Native Americans
You know, the guys who run those casinos.

:eyes:

:patriot:
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:20 AM
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17. I don't think any were crossing the Bering Strait 10,000 yrs ago either
The occupants of the Mayflower didn't deserve to become citizens, after all they weren't born here either.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:31 AM
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25. They broke no laws... there were no laws
My 11th great grandmother was on that ship... sometimes I wish she and her family had stayed put...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:21 AM
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18. I think you're right!!!
Not even servin' the tea!!!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:08 AM
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"All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens...
...of the United States and the state in which they reside."
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:08 AM
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2. Oh, that's rich, coming from an "O'Reilly", you know, from that
American Indian "O'Reilly" tribe.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:08 AM
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3. Bye-bye, Arnold, Moonie . . .
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 10:09 AM by zbdent
(if Moonie has become a citizen) - and has Rupert Murdoch ever actually become a US citizen at all? You know, BS O'Lielly's boss?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:46 AM
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27. Flip, flop!
Seems like only yesterday that the GOP wanted to amend the Constitution to allow a person born on foreign soil to become president. That was when they thought Ahnold was the answer to their powerhold.

My, my, my -- I see a flip flop here.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:09 AM
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5. Can we put a list of people in this country who should lose their
citizenship based on this asshat's comments?

How far back does he want to go - even Hitler felt 4 generations of German residence wasn't enough.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:18 AM
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15. Einstein
Colin Powell
Kissinger
Alexander Hamilton (born in the Carribean)
Werner von Braun who built the Saturn V moon rocket.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:28 PM
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37. GOOD: Enrico Fermi, Alexander Graham Bell, Stan Laurel
Cary Grant, Ramachayan Chandrashekar.

BAD:
Rupert Murdoch, Arnold Scharzenegger, Henry Kissenger
Edward Teller.

that's off the top of my head, there must be hundreds.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:55 PM
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40. Forgot about Teller.
How would you like to be known as the father of the hydrogen bomb? x(
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:25 PM
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43. I had him under good by mistake, sry.
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 01:28 PM by TheBaldyMan
on edit:

Add John Newman under good, born Janosc Neuman in Hungary he became Johan von Neumann in Germany then finally 'Johnnie' Newman in US in the 40s.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:09 AM
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6. Take THIS, you LOOFAH- luvin' Motherf*cker:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:16 AM
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11. The man is a poet.
Oh. My. God!
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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:55 PM
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45. what!
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 02:04 PM by neoteric lefty
Who uses th term "modus operandi" in their sex talk? I mean, common Bill. You must not be too smooth with the ladies. I can see him now:

The scene is set:

(We find ourselves in a darkened bedroom. Candles are lit and soft jazz is playing in the background. We see two figures rolling around in the sheets)

Unnamed Republican Woman: Wait Bill, I don't know if we should be doing this. I've only known you for a few hours.

Bill Reilly: Baby, it's ok. I've done this tons of times before. Relax.

Woman: But Bill, I have some reservations...

Bill: (as he puts his index finger to her mouth) Shhhhh.... No bloviating tonight, you can let me do all the work.

Woman: Bill, I don't know.

Bill: Hey baby, the spin stops here. (He gestures towards the small bulge in the sheets)

Woman: Bill, I really am not sure about all of this.

Bill: This is my modus operandi. Trust me...

Woman: Bill, I'm out of here.

(She begins to gather herself from under the sheets. Just as she is to raise from the bed, he pulls her back down.)

Bill: (In his "Franken"-esque manner...) Shut up!

Woman: Bill! Let go of me!

Bill: Shut Up!

Woman: Let go of me, you pervert! I'm warning you!

Bill: SHUT UP!

(At that moment, she grabs her heel upon the edge of the bed and jams it in his crotch with a great force)

Bill: OOOOHHH! My loofa! My loofa!




I'm sorry. I'm bored. :)




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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:48 PM
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47. There goes my lunch
:puke:

God, he makes me physically ill.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:10 AM
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7. Gee thanks, Bill...
Guess that makes my life a complete waste. Born on German soil while my father served his time as Army officer...
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:18 AM
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14. First thing I thought of ... military kids
and will Brad and Angelina be able to bring their baby home ? LOL.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:15 AM
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8. I remember Bill and the others feeling differently about Elian Gonzalez
I fact, I remember quite a few repugs wailing over the boy being sent back to Cuba because he deserved to become an American.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:15 AM
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9. Alexander Hamilton was born on foreign soil.
We should kick out traitorous assholes like O'Reilly.

He is no better than Tokyo Rose or Axis Sally.

He is a propagandist for those who want to destroy democracy.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:15 AM
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10. He always spouts this nonsense when he's self-fisting.
:eyes:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:17 AM
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12. Does he include those "framers of the Constitution"
who were foreign born?

http://www.usconstitution.net/constframedata.html

How about foreign born "Signers of the Declaration of Independence?"

http://www.usconstitution.net/declarsigndata.html

Shall we use white out on all historical documents in the U.S. to obliterate the names of all those foreign born "terrorists" who had the audacity to "form a more perfect union?"

Dipshit. Has he ever opened a history book?

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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:18 AM
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13. I was unaware of O'Reilley's Cherokee heritage!
You learn something new every day!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:22 AM
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19. He dates back to pre-Cherokee heritage
yes, the Neanderthals did cross the seas to occupy America. O'reilly is their direct descendent.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:59 AM
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29. O'Reilly is from a planet where apes evolved from men. nm
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 11:25 AM by Deep13
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:19 PM
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35. Planet Devo?
nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:20 AM
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16. Well, fuck you, then, Henry Kissinger!!!
And fuck you, Albert Einstein!!! Piss off, Alexander Hamilton, take a powder, Jenifer Granholm, and take Arnold Duh Governator wid ya!!!!!!

And what constitutes foreign soil, to this dunce's mind?? Anything outside the fifty states? In that case, screw you, John McCain (Panama Canal Zone)!!! Or is it any land that was NOT called a US state at the time of the birth?? Shove it, most of our early Presidents, and grab Barry Goldwater (Az was a TERRITORY when he was pushed out) on your way out the door!!!


Ya know, this is a topic that begs for the Olbermann treatment!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:22 AM
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22. I'm sensing yet another "Worst Person In The World" award...
I can hear KO right now, sharing the details of Ted Baxter's latest fatwa...

:evilgrin:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:22 AM
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20. Let's see...
This would include anyone that came over on the Mayflower, our founding fathers and their descendants, all the people that came to the U.S. via Ellis Island, and there descendants of course because if they didn't deserve to be American then it means their descendants aren't either. I wonder how Bill O'Reilly's ancestors got here?:eyes:
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:22 AM
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21. I need to send this to my repuke mother . . .
whose mother was born in Russia but later became an American citizen. My father's grandparents were born in Sweden and became US citizens as well. Both are Faux News regulars. Thank you Bill!

Does he ever think about the words coming out of his mouth?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:29 AM
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23. will he pay for me to go back to sweden?
maybe i can do what i want to make a living because i`d have health care
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:39 AM
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26. What about the people I know who are part
Italian, part Irish, part who knows what? Where do they get sent back? :silly:
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:29 AM
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24. Hey, O'Leilly?
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 10:31 AM by catabryna
Can you please tell me how my now 5 year old boy can "earn citizenship" since he was born in Ukraine? How about when he was 18 months old? Oh, I know... I can put a bunch of colored strips of paper and stars on the floor and if he manages to pick up a red stripe, a white stripe, a blue sheet of paper and some white stars, he qualifies?

Puleeze! Thank gawd he didn't have to jump through the roadblocks you'd love to throw in his path to obtain citizenship!

edited: typo
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:50 AM
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28. Straight-up racism,
and encouraging lack of understanding about immigration & naturalization laws. Here's a truly weird one I discovered a year or so ago. When my (Korean) wife and I married, 30-odd years ago, my name was entered in her family registry. Kinda nice gesture, I thought at the time, but no big deal. My wife several years later applied for and received (after racist hassles from the testing people viz. "Name the complete congressional delegation for this state") US citizenship. And our kids were born on US soil - not right _on_ the soil, mind you, but you get the idea.

Well, my wife worked for some years as a freelance translator and something she translated frequently was the aforementioned family registries. Why? Because that's where all Korean records of one's life reside - there are, for example, no marriage certificates in Korea. So, guess what, if you are recorded in a Korean family register, you're a Korean citizen - and if you are also a citizen of another place, you're a dual citizen. So my wife and my kids and I are all dual citizens! How weird is that? Good thing I speak Korean or O'Reilly'd be after me for not being a proper citizen, eh?
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:05 AM
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30. Great, now I have to defend O'Reilly -- thanks loads.
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 11:05 AM by Geoff R. Casavant
Looking just at the bold sentences in the OP, I can kind of understand what he meant to say -- that no foreign-born person has an absolute right to become a US citizen, but that they can request the privilege. I expect that's true of the immigration laws of any country; I have no right to demand that Spain accept me as a citizen, but I can request it the same as anyone else. He phrased the point badly.

Now please don't make me defend O'Reilly again, it hurts my stomach.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:14 AM
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32. Yeah that's what I thought when I saw it...glad you have to take the hit
for defending him and not me:)
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:37 AM
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33. Actually, he said people born on foriegn soil, not just...
foriegners themselves. I wonder how many NATURAL BORN US CITIZENS who happened to have had parents on diplomatic or military assignments that he would revoke the citizenship of. Hell, many of them are not only NOT born on US soil, but they even have *gasp* parents that are of more than one nationality, some become automatic dual citizens at that! O'loofah is a fucking idiot!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:57 PM
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41. I know. He's not 100% wrong, but...
...he just makes it too easy.:evilgrin:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:12 AM
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31. This is an opinion of an "Independent," right? He says he's not republican
I want to :banghead: , but that would only succeed in giving me a headache. Instead, I must :rofl: at his utter stupidity.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Now I'm off to figure out how to cut myself in half and go back to Scotland and Ireland. It might hurt a bit, but apparently, I don't deserve to be here. And neither do about 300+ years of family members. :eyes:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:41 AM
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34. What the hell?
That is honestly possibly the most xenophobic thing I've ever seen.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:20 PM
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36. Someone should shove a felafel down his throat and leave it there.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:30 PM
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38. So... I guess O'Reilly's family pre-1st gen should've left...
It would've made the world better.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:43 PM
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39. omg, these people are just evil who say things like this
:thumbsdown:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:25 PM
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42. does It(he) ever actually give any thought to what it(he) says? nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:30 PM
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44. I guess he knows that children of illegal immigrants are authomatically
citizens of the US if they are born on US soil? That's a birthright.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:59 PM
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46. Hey O'Leilly tell you what I will meet you half way
see this little book caled Star Ship Troopers.. service earns citizenship... you and the rest of the asshats runnign the country have NOT served... how bout them apples?
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:29 PM
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48. ...except Ahnold
:sarcasm:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:58 PM
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49. I wonder what the Gov of California thinks about that
O'REALLY
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:43 PM
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50. KIds of US Troops too?
What a moran! Well, it would get rid of Scwartzeneggar.
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