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Carl Spackler Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:41 PM
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Your speculations if no candidate gets 2,162 delegates
Looks like Kerry and Edwards are showing well today, and it may narrow down to a two horse race. But Dean seems unlikely to quit anytime soon, and has pinned his hopes on later primaries. Say we get to the convention with Kerry, Edwards, and Dean (maybe even Clark) still in the running. Sharpton will probably still be running but will have too few delegates to be a player (stay in and preach it, Al!!). Your thoughts on how this would play out?
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:43 PM
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1. that would be awesome!
The repubs cannot start attacking until we have a nominee. That is the BEST scenario, in my opinion... Have some SERIOUS debate at the convention... Man, have not seen serious debates in a LOOOOONG time....
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Carl Spackler Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:46 PM
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4. I agree
Can you imagine the national conversation at that point? We'd own the news for weeks with no way for the GOP to get a word in edgewise. Hopefully would be a good discussion of issues and vision too.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:44 PM
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2. then nominate me!
:-)

why not--it could happen

:bounce:
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:46 PM
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3. I could see a lot of good things about this
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 02:47 PM by cjbuchanan
As long as the convention stays civil. We do not need a 1968 repeat.

That said, I really do not think that will happen. I think this will be decided by mid-March.

As far as Sharpton, I am very much wondering about his motives. Take a look at this Salon article: http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/02/03/sharpton/index.html
It seems he is getting a lot of Republican money.

All in all, it would be fun to watch all the press coverage, knowing that Bush would get next till none till his convention.

edit for grammar
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:53 PM
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7. even if it didn't stay civil, it won't be a repeat of 68 in Boston
The news in Chicago in 68 was outside the convention.....
The repeat of 68 this year is going to be in New York City outside of the Republican convention.

hehhehheh:evilgrin:
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:00 PM
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10. Please....peace first in front of cameras
Do you think angry Leftists battling and battering the heroic NYPD is a strong, positive image for Democrats? Will voting Americans see the violence on Manhattan streets and conclude "ah, these Democrats should be in White House." Think about it. I mean, really think about it!
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:09 PM
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15. I hope there isn't violence also
Don't mean to encourage it either.
I was really only thinking in terms of there being large scale demonstrations outside of the convention, which is an unusual occurrence.
I see how my comment could have been misinterpreted though.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:05 PM
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19. Actually, chaos reigned inside too
Daley was in charge. He cut off microphones, called people "motherfucking Jew bastards," and had reporters beat up. There was a motion to cancel the convention and move it elsewhere. All kinds of trial balloons for candidates were thrown up in the air.

It was a mess.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:12 PM
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22. thanks for reminding me
I was only 11 at the time so I forgot that part. I don't know how Daley slipped my mind or the reporters getting beat up.
Ah - the good old days?
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:47 PM
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5. President....
Gore.
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mccormack98 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:07 PM
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13. YES!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:53 PM
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18. Wow. Profound.
I agree! Gore.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:49 PM
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6. Would it mean that our field is weak or strong?
one vote for STRONG
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:09 PM
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14. We Have an Embarrassment
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 03:09 PM by GiovanniC
of riches.

It's like trying to decide, do I want the strawberry cheesecake, or the chocolate layer cake? And man, that peach cobbler looks pretty good too. And the lemon merangue. Or maybe apple pie is the way to go.

It all looks so good, I can't decide.
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capriccio Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:55 PM
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8. Will not happen
All serious discussion after today will be how Kerry consolidates.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:59 PM
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9. DLC will attempt strong arm superdelegates
thats about 720 or 1/3 (of those needed) toward their fav DLC candidate. If Edwards is still in I expect this will be him. Kerry may not like that, but veterans aren't as big a block as women, and Edwards is just so cute in those shots of him changing diapers.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:02 PM
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11. Keep the campaign going
The longer it goes and stays civil the better for the Dems. They keep bringing up issues that are hurtful to * and keep getting the press and all the while the Repuke campaign can not get the handle on who to attack. The media attention is better for us and while the primaries have started * has lost 11%.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:04 PM
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12. If two candidates have a large enough block to win together
If two candidates have a large enough block to win together,
they'll likely make a deal.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:20 PM
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16. This is only a good thing if the 3 or 4 or 5
who are left are civil to each other and attack Bush. This won't happen as we have already seen. They turn on each other. Sure, the Repubs can't spend all summer attacking us, but why bother if we do it for them? They can stay above the fray and say, "silly Dems, the us people want us to stop bickering."

We need a nominee sooner and not later. Mid March at the latest.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:08 PM
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20. Not true. As soon as there is ONE candidate left
All rational discourse disappears... It's all spin spin spin from there on...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:11 PM
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21. Unfortunately..
True.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:47 PM
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17. The "super delegates" either consolidate behind one candidate or
The "supers" from the large states will try to persuade those other delegates from their state to support one specific candidate. It should n't be too difficult to change enough votes....
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