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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:51 AM
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Hillary hearts Fox News
David Sirota, quotes the Washington Post excerpt:

"There was a buzz when Dick Cheney walked into the 'Fox News Sunday' 10th anniversary bash Wednesday night, but it was another guest -- arriving fashionably late -- who really got heads turning. Hillary Clinton?!!? Here? 'Having the clear frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination show up at a Fox News party created a lot of excitement, and makes a statement about how we're regarded in top Democratic circles,' said host Chris Wallace , who invited her to the celebration. Clinton spent an hour at Cafe Milano schmoozing with News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch (very chummy since last year's truce), Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes, and most of the Bush administration, including Karl Rove, Josh Bolten, Karen Hughes, Dan Bartlett and former Fox host Tony Snow, just hours after he was named the new Bush spokesman...More than 300 VIPs crammed into the Georgetown hot spot, passing a gantlet of security to make the cut. Much jockeying for face time with Brit Hume and Bill O'Reilly, and once-and-future power brokers such as House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Sens. John McCain and Ben Nelson, Rep. Tom DeLay, Newt Gingrich, Ken Duberstein, Ted Olson, Vernon Jordan and former DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe. Yes, that flashy redhead was Georgette Mosbacher... The mood was conservatively expansive...and appropriately lush: Open bar, lots of food, cigars aplenty."
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David Sirota says: "This really shows you how Washington works. It is a nauseating portrait, for sure -- particularly the Democratic Party aspect of it. Here you have a network that behaves like the press wing of the Republican Party, and yet here you have high-profile Democrats publicly celebrating its milestones. This, of course, comes one day after other high-profile Beltway Democrats cheered the appointment of fringe right-wing talkshow host Tony Snow as the spokesman for the White House.

To call this pathetic is an insult to things that are pathetic. It is like Washington Democrats motto in fighting the GOP is "Thank you, sir! May I have another?"
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:02 AM
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1. Celebrating Faux's milestones???? Naaaah....
I liken it more to the morbid curiosity that causes some people to go look at, and poke, that dead body before the cops arrive, or who show up early at the hangin' in order to get a good view. The ones who enter lotteries to get a seat at the lethal injection....hey, it may be SICK history, but it's history nonetheless!!!!

Faux reminds me of MORTON DOWNEY, JR. There are probably a lot of people here who don't even remember him, but he was the originator of the current methodology of shit-talk that we hear from the GOP even to this day. He, in fact, actually WROTE the playbook, despite others of the Atwater and Rove ilks who claim that they did. He's the one that made LIBERAL a 'naughty' word.

Morton is dead now, but his trash stylings live on...for the time being. But no one, and nothing, lives forever....

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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:04 AM
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2. How about
"Keep your friends close, and your enemy's closer"
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:10 AM
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4. Exactly. n/t
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:06 AM
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3. I'm no Hillary fan, but this is asinine.
I'm getting tired of the whole "Democrats should never EVER socialize with Republicans" meme. I've seen it way too many times. Believe it or not, some people have something called "professionalism", where they leave the job behind and just talk to other people as people.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:21 PM
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5. This is FOX NEWS.
She's covorting with the enemy.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:34 PM
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7. CNN, NBC, ABC and most of the Newspapers are not much better
Should she ban herself from those outlets as well?
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:41 PM
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10. Fox is a lot worse then those other examples.
FOX is the GOPS ministry of propoganda and everyone knows it.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:30 PM
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14. Not really- they all reported WMDs, "Saddam/9-11" and Swiftboats
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 04:31 PM by Dr Fate
All of them dressed down Dan Rather, and presented Micheal Moore as "the real liar."

All of them, not just FOX.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:39 PM
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8. I agree- I'm no Hill fan either- but trying to get on TV is a GOOD thing.
The OP may not realize that lots of voters happen to get their news from that invention.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:33 PM
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6. How dare her try to get on TV. She should write more letters...
...or try smoke signals.

Perhaps she could put flyers under our wind sheild wipers as well.

ANYTHING is better than trying to get on TV- only the guys who won the last 3 election cycles are low enough for that.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:44 PM
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9. flyers with tie-in offering a free small frozen yogurt with sprinkles.
That's BIG in the 'burbs.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:42 PM
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11. This was a PARTY...it wasn't an interview.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:29 PM
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13. Do ya think there were any producers or program directors at that party?
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 04:29 PM by Dr Fate
I'll bet there were.

I may not agree with everything Hill does, but she is not stupid.

Trying to gain more media access is one thing I'll never fault DEMS for.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:50 PM
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18. Sucking up to the enemy?
Hopnobbing with FOX NEWS? That was stupid. Confirms a lot of suspicious I have.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:31 PM
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23. I guess we need to have a word with David Corn & Micheal Moore as well...
...not to mention Wes Clark, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Al Gore and all the other closet facists who dare to put themsleves in front of FOX News cameras.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:50 PM
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12. Sirota has a tendancy to form a theory THEN look for facts to support it
Bugs me, he does.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:42 PM
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16. That's for damn sure. Sirota is exaggerates and fabricates
...he leaves out inconvenient details to make his points.

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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:51 PM
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19. What's he leaving out here?
Sirota is a true blue populist. He's one of the few people talking about how corporate power has taken over our party and run it into the ground.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:06 PM
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22. and he plays fast and loose with the facts while he does it.
In just the snippet quoted in the OP, he neglects to mention (being the pro that he is) that Hillary Clinton will appear at a place like this because she is the front runner, because she'll need to appeal to a wide array of people to have a chance of winning. To win a national campaign, one must get a lot of votes.

It's the same reasoning that made Jimmy Carter allow Pat Robertson to interview him for the 700 Club and that Howard Dean was the guest speaker at a Cato Institute lunch and that Wes Clark was the guest speaker at a republican fundraiser.

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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:18 AM
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29. That's ommitting YOUR oppinion
Being interviewed by FOX is one thing.

Going to parties with them is another.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:39 PM
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15. Well, For Me... Just Another Reason NOT To Have Her
become the Democratic Nominee. I really don't like all the schmoozing she's been doing this past year! I KNOW why she does it and I know she may be trying to lose the "liberal" tag, but I just DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL!!

We HAVE better. I think she's quite capable, but now I'm beginning to feel that maybe I can't "trust" her so much. Just take a look at Joementum these days! Just don't feel good about this AT ALL!!!
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:47 PM
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17. She must be nuts
If Hillary thinks she is ever going to lose the liberal tag she's crazy. She's been around too long for that to happen. She is the most polarizing politician in the country and she might as well try to keep her base and the Dems. At this rate over the past year she is losing me.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:53 PM
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20. She's a DINOSAUR
She part of this DLC centric....move to the middle stategy that ignores our base.

No nominee can win without thier base.

Dean is the model for 2008. Hillary is following the Clinton-Liberman model.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:43 PM
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25. But I could have sworn I saw Dean on Fox news a time or two myself.
He must not have gotten the memo that the only "pure" way to get out the message is on obscure message boards and local alternative papers that only Liberals read.



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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:15 PM
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28. Addressing FOX news' audience is one thing.
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 06:15 PM by iconoclastNYC
Socializing with the enemy is entirely different.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:05 PM
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21. Liberals like her are trying everything they can
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 05:07 PM by rniel
to capture those valuable middle of the road voters. I guess they must be much more important than your base.

Seems to me. Republicans rile up their base to win elections. Democrats try to snub their base to win elections.

It's kinda bizarre.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 11:28 AM
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31. She's no more a liberal than Jim (the fixer) Baker III is.
Just another corporate politiwhore, sucking around the $$.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:38 PM
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24. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 06:53 PM
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26. Sounds Good... But Doesn't Work For Me!
Keeping enemies close and knowing what they're up to is one thing but, I hardly think this is what Hillary is doing. I would much more prefer having her stick her neck out for Democrats and Democratic causes, rather than partying with Repukes!

Sure, I know it's how it's done in D.C. but somehow it's still feels like the Devil & Your Soul...one more time. Simply going along to get along isn't what we need here in America, haven't we HAD ENOUGH of this YET??

We need The Congress to understand they work for US! The more the game is played the more WE lose!

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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:53 PM
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27. I saw your avatar and decided it best not to respond, so
Have a Nice Day!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:50 AM
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30. Sickening.
:puke:
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