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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:35 AM
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Kerrey on Kerry
Edited on Mon May-01-06 11:37 AM by demdiva
Bob Kerrey sent out this e-mail of support for John Kerry and his Iraq policy today.

Dear XXXX,

When we were in the Senate together, John Kerry and I shared a lot more than a last name. We both came to public service after having served our country in Vietnam. And that experience caused us to make a fifteen year effort to bring peace to Cambodia, resolve the POW-MIA issue, write a road map to normalization with our former enemy, and follow that road map until a former prisoner of war returned as our ambassador in 1998.

That diplomatic voyage was long and very contentious. It began with President George Herbert Walker Bush and ended with President Clinton. It was not possible without the courageous leadership of Senator John McCain and many other Vietnam veterans who served in Congress. It was angrily opposed by many and reignited many of the bitter, personal debates surrounding the war itself.

It's among my proudest accomplishments. We were able -- Republicans and Democrats together -- to achieve a great foreign policy success at the site of our worst foreign policy mistake. We stood shoulder to shoulder for peace and reconciliation. Millions of Cambodians and Vietnamese are better off today because of it. For me this was an effort worthy of our sacrifices and reflects my strongest desire for America's destiny as a peace maker.

For those who have fought in war, decisions about war and peace and how you send men and women to war become personal in a hurry. Wars -- even when we agree they are necessary -- are not the result of our successes; they are the result of our failures.

Something more, though, was seared into both John and me by our Vietnam experiences. Half of the names on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall are the names of Americans who died after the policy makers knew our nation was on the wrong course, after both political parties called for expeditious withdrawal. And yet the war dragged on for five more years.

"How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

Thirty-five years ago, John Kerry asked that question as a recently returned Vietnam veteran testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He acted because he believed it was right to dissent from a war he believed was wrong -- and he was willing to endure the attacks of the Nixon Administration which hated John for saying what he believed.

This testimony provoked more than partisan attacks. Even many of his fellow veterans were angry and some never forgave him. I remember this well because I nearly lost my first race for Governor because people thought I was John.

Say what you want about the content of that testimony, it was an act of profound courage. And say what you want about that testimony, there is little doubt that Vietnam and the United States would have been spared tens of thousands of its youth had John's advice been taken.

Ten days ago, in a powerful speech on Iraq and dissent at Boston's Faneuil Hall, John made it clear that those who disagree with President Bush's course in Iraq have a right and an obligation to challenge a President who they believe is wrong, a policy they believe is wrong, and a war in Iraq they believe weakens our nation.

John stood up and defended the dissenters -- whether retired generals or our fellow Vietnam veteran Congressman Jack Murtha.

In an age where those who speak out are too often vilified or worse, John spoke out about and acted on the real meaning of patriotism: having the courage to speak your mind, heart, and gut even when it's unpopular.

I urge you to watch this vitally important speech and to forward it to as many people as possible.

VIEW HIGHLIGHTS OF THE FANEUIL HALL SPEECH ON DISSENT AND IRAQ

We're at a big moment here - one where each and every one of us must reject attempts to silence criticism of the rudderless course Washington has charted, one in which each of us must absolutely refuse to let soldiers and civilians die to save face for politicians unwilling to admit their mistakes or change course.

I urge you to watch this speech and to join with John Kerry in speaking out and doing everything possible to make 2006 the year that we did what's right for our soldiers in Iraq, our nation's foreign policy values, and our national security.

Sincerely,

Senator Bob Kerrey
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:40 AM
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1. I am excited about this endorsement! It is good news. n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:13 AM
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21. Also excited to notice in 'footnote' it said "Paid for by JohnKerry.com"
(or something similar) in 'box' at bottom of ad.

Being me, I took that to mean...in addition to Bob asking Dem's to "aid" other Dem's...was he ALSO subtly endorsing contributions to JK's "upcoming??" candidacy?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:49 AM
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22. I don't think so - I think that Kerry is disseminating the Kerrey letter
This was also done with the Gary Hart comments on his October plan. It does show that Kerry will make the effort to spread positive support - that the media would likely not even think of picking up. Kerrey himself would have trouble getting the letter out.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:50 AM
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2. Great letter
one quibble - it makes McCain sound like the leader on the POW/MIA committee. Kerrey was more pro-Iraq war before so this is great.
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:37 PM
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4. Yeah I agree on the McCain statement
...especially given McCain's recent love affair with right-wingers that attacked Kerry's record in 2004
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:57 AM
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3. A gracious and insightful testimony from one great public servant
about another.

Very nice to hear.
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:43 PM
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5. One more note for anyone that didn't see the Faneuil Hall speech
Highlights / extended highlights / the entire speech can now be seen at www.johnkerry.com.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 07:03 PM
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11. Faneuil Hall speech is a must-see - links
http://www.johnkerry.com

(yeah I know you had the link but mine is clickable :) )

even more powerful if you read the preliminary speeches:

Captain Jonathan Powers - http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2006_0426b.html

Judith Droz Keyes - http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2006_0426a.html

I wish they had video for all of it!
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:30 PM
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14. Thanks for posting!
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jenndar Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:49 PM
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6. K&R
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 01:30 PM
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7. Kick
:kick:
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 02:31 PM
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8. Kick
:kick:
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 02:59 PM
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9. K & R (I LOVE Dem unity) n/t
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 05:46 PM
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10. Look at all those recommends!
One last :kick: for the evening crew.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:03 PM
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12. does this mean Bob Kerrey isn't running 2008?
I still think Kerrey will support Ben Nelson if he runs. I doubt John Kerry views this as an endorsement.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:09 PM
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13. Nobody was speaking about an endorsement for 08.
I dont know if Kerrey will run (I understand he is not interested) and it is the first time I hear about Ben Nelson running either. But the subject of this letter was an endorsement of his speech on dissent, obviously.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:03 AM
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15. What Mass said. And...
I am pretty sure that Kerrey has been critical of Kerry's 1971 statements in the past, even though the two have worked together on many issues, like the POW/MIA issue. This email is significant in that Kerrey emphasizes that even those who disagreed with the content of John's testimony, should respect the courage he showed in standing up for what he believed in and trying to end the war.

Considering that Kerrey has endorsed someone in a 2006 race who did not demonstrate the same level of maturity in 2004, and to my knowledge has not yet demonstrated it, I see this sort of as a bridge between the two camps, and I really appreciate it. Immensely. Despite whatever lies in the past (and I don't know all that much about Kerrey so don't read too much into that), my respect for Kerrey really stepped up a lot when I read this email.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:09 AM
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17. Kerrey supported John Kerry pretty early in 2004
He actually comments on 1971 in Going Upriver, where from memory, he comments that you don't lead an anti-war protest and hope to run for public office. (No criticism more admiration that Kerry would put his future at risk.) Kerrey seemed to come home from Vietnam dissillusioned. In one of the stories on the POW/MIA committee (I think), Kerrey speaks of having to get over the anger he felt towards Nixon. So, Kerrey likely was someone more in the middle - without the driving need to speak the truth even if it destoyed his chances that Kerry had or the denial that anything was wrong that Webb or McCain have.

Kerrey is negative about the war in the book he wrote on Vietnam. (He has some pretty negative things to say about Admiral Hoffman who was the SBVT guy. (So, the Republicans who gleefully attack Kerrey as a war criminal, where the situation was far too vague, then said Kerry lied about saying there were war crimes.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:56 AM
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16. Kerrey is President of New School University
Edited on Tue May-02-06 07:19 AM by karynnj
a very liberal NYC college. He's been out of the Senate for years and couldn't run in Nebraska because I doubt he retained residency there.

Editted to say, you might mean President. I doubt Kerrey could because of allegations from Vietnam. I also wouldn't take this as an indorsement for Kerry in 2008 - especially as it detract from a hawk (which Bob Kerrey is) backing Kerry's Iraq plan and standing up for the public's right to question a war. I wouldn't even try to guess who Kerrey would endorse. He endorsed Kerry in 2004, but then shortly before the election when asked said Kerry was likely wrong to say that they let OBL escape at Tora Bora (where Kerry was right)

On a personal level, he really likes and admires Kerry, who gave him a huge amount of emotional support when Kerrey was accused of things in Vietnam.
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:38 AM
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18. Thanks for educating us karynnj!
I didn't recall any of that .... now where is the Long River video??? ....
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:06 AM
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20. Going Upriver was the film made by Kerry friend, George Butler
It was released in Fall 2004.
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 11:51 AM
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23. Yeah... I got it from Netflix recently
But I can't remember if I returned it or if it's still hanging around my house somewhere!
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:40 AM
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19. LOL.... that subject line pulled me in.
What, no pics??? :rofl:
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 11:52 AM
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24. Diirrrrrrrrrty
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